Hi, Thank you for your detailed response. My Joseph and Mary Vivian family is from St Eval, Cornwall and came over to Ontario Canada sometime after 1846, I think. The story is that 3 Vivian brothers came: Joseph, Richard and Peter.

There where many Vivan's living in Ontario CA during that period. Eventually some of them, mine included, moved to Michigan in the later 1800's. They were raised Wesleyan Methodist in Cornwall. If you can find out where in Cornwall he came from, that would help.
Regards
MacClurg Vivian

Who were his parents?

I do not have exact dates for the earliest records but I can trace back to Cornwall. John Vivian was born in Cornwall England. He married Mary Jane Higgins from Ebervale, Wales. They had a son, John Vivian who was born in Nanticoke, PA 10/2/1885. He married Rose Day who was born in Honeypot, PA 8/27/1886.One of their daughters, Catherine Vivian, was my grandmother.