Would be grateful to know if Enoch Ryder b 1773-1780 Sag Harbor, Suffolk, Long Island, NY was married to Penelope Franklin, daughter of John Franklin & Niobe Dodge or to Niobe Unknown (Dodge?) b1790-1793 Block Island; died 1878 Norwich, CT. Or are the two spouses the same person? The Southampton, NY 1850 census has Niobe b1790 in CT but her death record from the Norwich city hall has her being born 1793 in Block Island, RI. The Penelope Franklin spouse was also b in Block Island.

To confuse matters, there are a bunch of Penelope Franklins & Mark Dodges from Block Island:

Penelope Franklin (spouse Enoch Ryder?) b abt 1775>Niobe Dodge & John Franklin>Mark Dodge & Lydia Rathbone>Nathaniel Dodge & Margaret Pullen

Penelope Franklin (spouse Mark Dodge) -brother of John Franklin above- >Abel Franklin & Lydia Littlefield; spouse Mark Dodge>Nehemiah Dodge & Mary Mitchell>Nathaniel Dodge & Margaret Pullen.

Would be most grateful if anyone can untagle this mess probably filled with many errors.

I'm working on the line of Phebe Ray Ryder 1820-1853, daughter of Capt. Enoch Ryder and spouse of Harvey G. Rogers 1822-1898 (also glad for any imput on Harvey) Thanks. See chart below.

Bob Foran - CT
Descendants of James Ryder
1 James Ryder b: Abt. 1742 in Yarmouth, Barnstable, MA d: 09 Mar 1780 in Sag Harbor, Suffolk, NY
. +Tabitha Eldredge/Taylor b: 05 Jul 1745 in Chatham, Barnstable, MA m: 02 Aug 1766 in Chatham, Barnstable, MA
2 Enoch Ryder b: Abt. 1773 in Sag Harbor, Suffolk, NY d: 20 May 1861 in Sag Harbor, Suffolk, NY
... +Niobe Unknown b: Abt. 1792 in Block Island, Washington, RI d: 04 Sep 1878 in Norwich, New London, CT
*2nd Wife of Enoch Ryder:
... +Penelope Franklin b: in Block Island, Washington, RI m: Abt. 1815
3 Phebe Ray Ryder b: 1820 in NY d: 29 May 1853 in Meriden, New Haven, Ct
.... +Harvey G. Rogers b: Abt. 1822 in Moriches, Suffolk, NY m: 12 Jun 1840 in Sulfolk, NY d: 15 Feb 1898 in Windsor, Hartford, CT
. 4 William F/H Rogers b: 25 Nov 1843 in Sag Harbor, Suffolk, NY d: 23 Dec 1920 in Swampscott, Essex, MA
..... +Ellen A. "Nellie" Huntley b: Jan 1847 in MA m: 14 Dec 1871 in Windsor, Hartford, CT
. 4 Nioba "Dolly?" Rogers b: 1845 in NY
. 4 Phebe R. Rogers b: 26 Sep 1850 in Meriden, New Haven, Ct d: 28 Feb 1852 in Meriden, New Haven, Ct
. 4 Enoch Rogers?
3 Enoch H. Ryder b: Abt. 1813 in Sag Harbor, Suffolk, NY d: 12 Mar 1863 in Sag Harbor, Suffolk, NY
.... +Susan Hand Pierson b: 1808 in Bridgehampton, Suffolk, NY m: 12 Jun 1840 in Sag Harbor, Suffolk, NY
. 4 James P. Ryder b: Abt. 1842 in NY
. 4 Ernest W. Ryder b: Abt. 1846 in NY
..... +Mary Matilda Falford b: Abt. 1846 in England
3 Mary Howell Ryder b: Abt. 1817 in Sag Harbor, Suffolk, NY d: 13 Feb 1897 in Norwich, New London, CT
.... +Zadoc Chapman Crowell m: in Sag Harbor, Suffolk, NY
3 Abigail N. Ryder b: Feb 1807 in Sag Harbor, Suffolk, NY d: 12 Dec 1858 in Sag Harbor, Suffolk, NY
.... +Charles Pierson b: 17 Feb 1804 in Bridgehampton, Suffolk, NY m: Abt. 1830 in Sag Harbor, Suffolk, NY d: 16 Feb 1892 in Sag Harbor, Suffolk, NY
2 Mary Mollie Ryder b: Abt. 1769 in Chatham, Barnstable, MA
2 Priscilla Ryder b: Abt. 1775 in Chatham, Barnstable, MA

I'm sorry I can't answer your question, but you may have information on someone I'm trying to trace. I am interested in the ancestors of Ernest Welling Ryder, who was in Brooklyn in the 1870 census (and is my husband's great-grandfather). I have been trying to figure out if there is any way to tie him to Enoch H. Ryder, who I know was in the 1860 census with a son Ernest W. Ryder of the right age for my Ernest Welling Ryder. Any info would be appreciated--best of luck with yours!