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Re: William Nash I, II and III.... of Northumberland, Lancaster, Orange/Culpepper counties, VA .... 1635-1770s

Len  (View posts) Posted: 26 Sep 2005 6:12PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Nash, Harrison, Long
Helen,

I am a descendant of william and Betty Nash thru their son John Nash who married Mary "Polly" Harrison Long daughter of Rueben and Mary Long.. all pre-revolution Cullpepper County, VA. John and Polly Harrison Nash's 3rd son Ezekiel Nash's son Ira Norris Nash (1805-1877) was my g.g.g.grandfather.

I have Ezekiel's descendants pretty well documented into the Civil War era and Ezekiel's son Ira's descnendants very well documented into the early-mid 1900s.

I have obtained copies of William and Betty Nash's estate records and Rueben Long's estate records all from the VA Archives... and the 1795 estate records of William and Betty Nash's son John Nash from the SC state archives.

However, info/research on William Nash's parents and grandparents I obtained from COL Al Mets (a descendant John and Polly Nash's son Rueben Nash, who did a good deal of research on the Nash and Long families of colonial Virginia) and from Ron Jones (a descerndant of William and Betty Nash's eldest son James Nash) who did quite a bit of geneological research... some in conjunction with a Mr. McPearson who I have had no contact with).

I've been reviewing the documentation that COL Metts and Mr. Jones (and Mr. McPherson) compiled showing our William Nash of Orange and later Cullpepper Counties as a son of William Nash of Lancaster County and later Orange County and a grandson of William Nash of Northumberland/Lancaster counties of Virginia.... and there is also some question as to whether the last mentioned William Nash was the son of a (yet an earlier) William Nash of Northumberland County, VA.

Now all these counties are in the "Great Neck" area of Virginia... Lancaster County, which lies on north side and near the mouth of the Rapahonac (sp?) River, was split from Northumberland County in the 1650s/1660s (as I recall) and Cullpepper County which, lies further inland along the Rapahonac, was later split from Orange County.... and the "William Nash I > William Nash II > William Nash III" lineage theory seems to be supported by certain existing deed records (that document their movement from Lancaster County to Orange County) and by various other court and records mentioning the above mentioned William Nashes (and some of their associates) living in Northumberland, Lancaster and Orange Counties.

These known records, and a few estate records of in-laws, are the primary documention for this Colonial Nash family line. There is also a surviving passenger list for the ship "Globe" that sailed from London to Virginia in the mid 1630s that includes a 21/22 year-old William Nash (presmably bound for one of the plantations along the James River)... but there is no evidence that he is the same William Nash that ended up in Northumberland County by the 1660s... except for the absence of any other adult William Nash living in the Colony during this same period.

So, having sketched the above info.... what I am trying to do is locate other researchers descended from this family to compare notes with, sort out some questions and perhaps identify other surving records pertaining to this Colonial Virginia family.

--- Len

Re: William Nash b. circa 1613 thru William Nash IV, b. 1700s of colonial Virginia....

Len  (View posts) Posted: 26 Sep 2005 6:31PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Nash, Long
Re: William Nash b. circa 1613 thru William Nash IV, born early 1700s of Northumberland, Lancaster, Orange and Cullpepper counties of Colonial Virginia....

I am a descendant of William and Betty Nash.... thru their son John Nash who married Mary "Polly" Harrison Long, daughter of Rueben and Mary Long (all of colonial-era Cullpepper County, VA)..... thru John and Polly Harrison Nash's 3rd son Ezekiel Nash and thru his son Ira Norris Nash (1805-1877) who was my g.g.g.grandfather.

I have obtained copies of William and Betty Nash's estate records of Colonial Virginia (as well a Rueben Long's estate records) all from the VA Archives... and the 1795 estate records of William and Betty Nash's son John Nash from the SC state archives.

However, info/research on William Nash's parents and grandparents I obtained from COL Al Mets (a descendant of John and Polly Nash's son Rueben Nash, Al did a good deal of research on the Nash and Long families of Colonial Virginia) and a geneology w/ source documentation from Mr. Ron Jones, a descerndant of William and Betty Nash's eldest son James Nash, who did quite a bit of research (some apparently in conjunction with a Mr. McPearson with whome I have had no contact).

Now, I've been reviewing the documentation that COL Metts and Mr. Jones (and Mr. McPherson) compiled showing William Nash of Orange County and later of Cullpepper County as a son of William Nash of Lancaster County and later of Orange County... and a grandson of William Nash of Northumberland/Lancaster counties of Colonial Virginia.... and there is also some speculation as to whether the last mentioned William Nash was the son of a (yet an earlier) William Nash of Northumberland County, VA.

Now all four of the above mentioned counties are in the "Great Neck" area of Virginia... Lancaster County, which lies on north side and near the mouth of the Rapahonac (sp?) River, was split from Northumberland County in the 1650s/1660s (as I recall) and Cullpepper County which, lies further inland along the Rapahonac River, was later split from Orange County.... and the "William Nash I > William Nash II > William Nash III" lineage theory seems to be supported by certain existing deed records (that document their movement from Lancaster County to Orange County) and by various other court and records mentioning the above mentioned William Nashes (and some of their associates) living in Northumberland, Lancaster and Orange Counties.

These known records, and a few estate records of in-laws, are the primary documention for this this Colonial Nash family line. There is also a surviving passenger list for the ship "Globe" that sailed from London to Virginia in the mid 1630s that includes a 21/22 year-old William Nash (presmably bound for one of the plantations along the James River)... but there is no evidence that he is the same William Nash that ended up in Northumberland County by the 1660s... except for the absence of any other adult William Nash living in the Colony during this same period.

So, having sketched the above info.... what I am trying to do is locate other researchers descended from this family to compare notes with, sort out some questions and perhaps identify other surving records pertaining to this Colonial Virginia family.

Sincerely,
--- Len

William and Betty (Hardwick) Nash of Orange/Culpepper Counties, Colonial Virginia

len  (View posts) Posted: 28 Sep 2005 4:11PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Nash, Hopkins, Edmonds, Hardwick, Long
As indicated in my earlier posting, I am a descendent of William and Betty Nash through their son John Nash, born 17 May 1747. after the American Revolution, John and his brother James moved to South Carolina.

Then, in the late 1810s several of John Nash's sons (Abner, Ezekiel and Nimrod) then moved west from S.C. to Mississippi (along with their cousin Larkin, son of their father John's older brother James Nash).... Ezekiel Nash was my g.g.g.g.grandfather and i am descended from his 2nd son Ira Norris Nash (1805-1877).

Now getting getting back to William and Betty Nash of Colonial Virginia... Below are some notes that may be of interest:
1. William and Betty Nash's son John married Polly Harrison Long daughter of Rueben and Marry (Harrison) Long. The Long's belonged to Little Fork Church in St. Mark's Parrish, Cullpepper County, VA.
2. Rueben Long appraised the estate of our William Nash... I have not found an actual will made out by William Nash, but the estate inventory (will book B, page 6, dated 17 July 1767) shows the estate was to be divided between William Nash, Robert Sanders and wife Elizabeth Nash, John Nash, Leanna Nash, Elijah Nash... The actual division of the estate on 19 October 1772 also includes James Nash and James Saunders and wife Anne (Nash), James Saunders and wife Elizabeth, Bryant Thornbill and wife Leanna (Nash), Natheniel Robertson and wife Mary (Nash).
3. William Nash's wife Betty also died before the American Revolution, her will and estate records name the same grown children.... I have obtained copies of both Betty and William's estate records from the Virginia Archives.
4. The birth of William and Betty's son William on 2 Feb 1741 is recorded in Farquier County... Farquier County is next to Culpeper County where the family was living when the elder William died.
5. William Nash's son John was very active in the Baptist church after moving to South Carolina...as was John's son Ezekiel and Ezekiel's son Ira. So, church records may exist for William and Betty (I need to check the state Baptist Archives for this).
6. The Bible of John Nash's son Abner Nash records the 1739 birthdate of John's brother James Nash (as well as the 1740s birthdate of John Nash.... I have a late 1950s photostat copy of the birth/marriage/death family record pages of the Abner Nash Bible... but unfortunately the Bible is now apparantly lost.
7. William Nash's grandson Rueben Nash (first son of John and Polly Harrison Long-Nash) married 1st cousin Nancy Nash... she was the daughter of William and Betty Nash's eldest son James.
8. My g.g.g.grandfather Ira Norris Nash (son of Ezekiel Nash, grandson of John Nash and great-grandson of William and Betty Nash of Cullpepper County Colonial Virginia) stated in a surviving 1876 letter concerning family history (written when he was 71), that his grandparents were John and Polly Harrison Nash of Virginia and that his great-grandfather Nash came from England.... note that the last assertion is probably incorrect as there seems to be good evidence for his g.grandfather William Nash being at least a 3rd generation Colonial American... as reiterated below.
9. There are Colonial Virginia deed records for William and Anne Hopkins-Nash (whose 2nd son was named William) documented 1650s-1660s Northumberland County, a widow Amy Nash of Lancaster County whose 1708 will names her apparantly grown son William Nash, and a William and Anne Nash living in Christchurch Parrish, Lancaster County at least by 1709 who had a son named William Nash who was still of educatable age in 1719 (and I'll note that an Elias Edmonds was closely associated with both of the last mentioned Nash households).... then a William Nash who seems to be exchanging/buying land in Orange County for property in Lancaster County in the 1730s..... who may be our William Nash who married Betty (Hardwick?) of Orange/Cullpepper County.
10. There are also a number of related deed and estate records that name the earlier three William Nashes and that in some cases repeatedly mention the names some of their friends: John Mallet and John Meridith, 2nd and 3rd husbands of William Nash's widow Anne Hopkins-Nash in the 1650s-1660s), Thomas Hopkins of Lancaster County (brother of Anne Nash just mentioned), Walter Herde of Lancaster County and his son William Herde (who chose William and Anne Hopkins-Nash's son William Nash as guardian in the 1680s), John Kirk (daughter may have married one of the William Nashes), Elias Edmonds and son Will Edmonds of Lancaster County (Will Edmonds's son Elias Edmonds II was later a best friend and executor for William Nash, married to Anne Xxxxx, of Lancaster County who died in the late 1710s leaving a school-age son William Nash)... taken together these names all seem to link the three William Nashes of Lancaster County as father, son and grandson.... and then we have the William Nash of Lancaster County who sold and exchanged his property in Lancaster County in the 1730s for land on the great forks of the Rappahonic in Orange County (an area that later became Cullpepper County; So seemingly these apparant four generations of the smae Colonial Nash family are linked together.
11. While the several William Nashes mentioned in item #9/#10 above lived in the the Great Neck area of northern Virginia (Northumberland/Lancaster, and Orange/Cullpepper Counties... I also saw in a history of St John's Island that a William Nash (circa 1740s) owned property there, I have yet to investgate this.

Anyone else researching this Colonial Nash famil;y please pot here at the "Nash" surname message board of Rootsweb.com
--Len
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Re: William and Betty (Hardwick) Nash of Orange/Culpepper Counties, Colonial Virginia

Helen Wulff  (View posts) Posted: 1 Oct 2005 8:30PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Nash, Bradford, Morgan, Litchworth, Parry
Len, thanks for all the Nash genealogy. As I stated I do not have any documentation on Wm.l or ll , only Wm. lll, my ancestor from Farquier county, VA. He married Mary Morgan Bradford in 1764. She was the widow of William Bradford and was the daughter of Charles and Ann Morgan. They moved to What is now Blountville, Tenn. but at that time I believe it was part of North Carolina. William served in the Virginia Militia during the Revoluntary war. After that he and his family with other relatives migrated to Kentucky and to Missouri by 1800. His three children were William, Ira P. and Elizabeth. Wm. Jr., was born 1777and married Rebecca Litchworth. Betty was born 1771 and married Orvael Parry. Ira was born 1774 and was married three times before he died in 1840. History tell me that Ira and his father were surveyors and that Ira was granted the first Spanish Land Grant in this area. The family moved from St. Charles, Mo. and were living in a fort along the Missouri River during the War of 1812. After that Ira and his family started a town on the river and named it Nashville. It was used to export all the crops, etc, to St. Louis until 1840 when a big flood almost took all the business away and everyone moved to highter ground. There is more history but will close for now. Thanks again for your interest. I hope you will keep me posted on any thing the other men can put together on all these Williams. hrw

Orange Nash: African-American Slaves connected w/ records of Rueben Nash, son of John Nash and nephew of James Nash...

Len  (View posts) Posted: 17 Aug 2006 1:39PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Nash
Lynne,

As you know Orange Nash was once "associated" with LTC Rubin Nash brother of my g.g.g.grandfather Ezekiel Nash (1876-1846) of VA then SC and finally MS.

Ezekiel's son Ira Nash (my g.g.g.grandfather wrote out a detailed family tree in 1876 listing his grandparents and all his Nash Aunts and Uncles as well as their children....as well as were they lived or were then living at the time. Included on the list were his uncle Rueben Nash (who died in SC the 1820s and whose estate papers include the name of Orange Nash who went to live with Rueben's daughter Nancy Ophelia Nash and her in Mississippi).

As you know Orange Nash is listed on the 1870 and 1880 MS Censuses with a farm and and large family. Has anyone in your family ever turned up a photo of Orange Nash.... or Prince?

Sincerely, Len
Lenrein2@yahoo.com

Re: 1700s Culpepper County, VA: William and Betty Nash; sons James, b. 1739 and John, b. 1740s

jneely155  (View posts) Posted: 16 Mar 2009 6:02PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello. I am a descendent of William Nash I and Ann Hopkins. I have traced my history to here. Would love to talk with you as we are distantly related I am sure...William Nash I is my 12th granfather...if that makes sense....

Re: 1700s Culpepper County, VA: William and Betty Nash; sons James, b. 1739 and John, b. 1740s

erika_morgan  (View posts) Posted: 15 Oct 2009 6:54PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: MORGAN, LONG,
Notes for MARY MORGAN:
In the 'Genealogier of Virginia", page 714 references Mary Morgan, who married William Nash. The reference provided Williams birthday, their children, and also referenced William's parents as William and Elizabeth Nash of Culpeper, Va.

Children of WILLIAM Nash and MARY Morgan are:
i. CORNELIUS6 Nash, b. November 09, 1767.
ii. BETTY Nash, b. November 16, 1771.
iii. IRA Nash, b. June 14, 1774.
iv. WILLIAM JR. NASH, b. November 27, 1777.

This is sort of a long shot but I would be interested if there is anything more known of this Mary Morgan because the time is right for her to be a sybling or cousin to my Morgans from Culppeper Va. We are more less stuck at this generation, as you can see, there is some common first and second names with that Nash married ins?
I WILLIAM Morgan lived near Gooney Manor, these siblings came together from the Piedmont section up the Rappanannock River,across the saddle of the Massanutten Range into Shenandoah Co.
II LYDIA Morgan
III JONAS Morgan born ca. 1755 in Culpeper Va.(near today’s Brandy) died 1817 Gooney Manor Shenandoah Co. Va.
+ SUSANNA HARDIN married 28 april 1774 Shenandoah Co. Va. she was born ca 1755 died 1838 Gooney Mannor now Warren Co. Va.
   A ELIZABETH Morgan born ca 1775 died before 1838
+ JACOB RUDISILL d. before 1838 married 7 Feb. 1800 Shenandoah Co. Va. he was born ca 1775 died before 1838 son JacobRudasill & Barbara Weagerli
1 JACOB RUDISILL JR b. 1785d. before 1819, Orphaned and raised by JONAS and Susannah (Grandparents) at Gooney Manor
a JACOB F. RUDICILLER
2 JOHN RUDISILL b.1806 d. unk + Rachel Millie Brown 4 Jan 1830 Browntown Sen. Co. Va.
3 WILLIAM RUDISILL b. 1807 d. 5May1877 + Mary Marlow 24Dec1830 Rappahock Co. Va.
4 LYDIA RUDISILLER b. before 1806 d. unk + Richard S Colbert 18Jan1822 Shen. Co. Va.
B GEORGE Morgan born ca. 1777 died ?
+ BARBARAH NORTH, married 10Nov.1801 Shenandoah City, Va. b. 1783 d.1851 daughter of Zachairah North.
1 NANCY Morgan
+ NATHAN WHITE 18 Dec 1824 Licking Co, OH
2 ZACHAIRAH NORTH Morgan b.25Oct.1804
+ CATHERINE LONG 25Apr.1828, Pickaway Co. Ohio:d 21 Dec 1879 Pickaway Co. Ohio
3 CATHERINE Morgan b. 15Feb.1806,Va. d.Pickway Co. Ohio;d. 6Oct1851, Pickaway Co. Ohio
+ SAMUEL LONG m 30Oct.1829, Pickaway Co. Ohio
a AMOS LONG
b LEWIS LONG
C LEANNA (LEHANNAH) Morgan born ca. 1778 died ?
+ RICHARD WARD married 29 July 1801 Shenandoah Co. Va. he was son of Thomas WARD
D DANIEL Morgan born 1780 Shenandoah Co. Va. died 1853 Illinois [ from net. b.1775]
+ SARAH DEVAN married 19 Nov. 1801 Shenandoah Co. Va. she was born ca. 1783 Va. died 1866 Illinois,daughter Sarah & James DEVAN [from net DeVaughn
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