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Mosers & inlaws in early Randolph Co NC

KarenWTreacy  (View posts) Posted: 24 Jul 2009 5:09PM GMT
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Elizabeth Onstatt m Jacob Moser Randolph Co NC. When did Elizabeth's father, ?George Onstatt, die? Does anyone have his will? And Jacob's brother Tobias Moser, who married Nancy Myers/Meyer -- Is there a list of their children? I'm interested in the two that married Elliotts, there being a lot of Elliotts in Randolph Co as well. Tobias died 1837 in Fountain Co IN, what happened to Nancy? I think the daughter Martha/Patsey Moser Elliott was still living in 1850 in Martin Co IN.

I will be appreciative of anyone's help!
Karen Treacy
Charlottesville VA

Re: Mosers & inlaws in early Randolph Co NC

gmosier1  (View posts) Posted: 26 Jul 2009 4:03AM GMT
Classification: Query
Karen,

George and Henry Onstat (anstat, etc) were certainly enumerated in the 1790 Randolph County, NC census on the same page as was Jacob Moser. One would certainly suspect that they were close relatives of Elizabeth Onstat, but there is no proof of the relationship that I know of.

Nancy Myers Moser was apparently still alive at the time of the 1830 census (Orange County, IN) as a woman aged 70-80 is enumerated in Tobias' household. There are no other records of her in either Orange or Fountain counties, and the census records in 1840 and after do not show a woman of her age living in any of the Moser households. Also please note that there is no actual marriage record for Tobias Moser and anyone.

At some point during his residence in North Carolina Tobias left the German Reformed Church of his grandfather to become a member of the Sandy Creek Baptist Church of Randolph County. The Sandy Creek Church, is considered to be the "mother" church of the Seperate (Primitive) Baptist movement in the southern United States According to the "History of the Sandy Creek Baptist Association" by George W. Purefoy (1859, Sheldon and Company, New York, NY), Tobias Moser and John Hudson were the representatives of the mother church to the 1805 meeting of the Sandy Creek Baptist Association. The Sandy Creek Association convened yearly in to transact church business and debate questions of theology. One would assume that Tobias Moser was a long standing member of some repute to have been accorded this honor. A short history of the Sandy Creek movement may be found on the North Carolina History website at: http://www.northcarolinahistory.org/encyclopedia/112/entry

The Sandy Creek Baptists had long association with the Quakers, and both churches were deeply involved in the Regulator Movement of 1768-1771. This may explain why many of Tobias Moser's children had spouses who came from Quaker families. The emigration of Quakers from Randolph County, NC to Orange County, IN, which the Moser family joined, began in about 1815 and was organized by the noted North Carolina Quaker Jonathan Lindley (1756-1828). Tobias' daughter Margaret Moser married Zacharias Lindley, the brother of Jonathan. The Hasketts and the Elliotts were also Quakers who married Mosers.

It is interesting to note that the Rev. Drury Sims who married Jacob Moser and Elizabeth Onstat was first ordained as minister in one of the Sandy Creek daughter churches.

I hope this helps a little
Gary Mosier

Re: Mosers & inlaws in early Randolph Co NC

KarenWTreacy  (View posts) Posted: 24 Aug 2009 12:42AM GMT
Classification: Query
Gary, I just found your reply (the automatic notification didn't work). Thanks so much for the Sandy Creek reference, I'll follow that up. I just got back from vacaton in NC, since I was the person in charge of the itinerary, a day in Raleigh got on the schedule, so I had a trip to the State Library. Found another Moser family history there, by Rev D I Offman, Alamance Co 1974. It deals with Frederick. I did get a copy of George Onstatt's will, but no mention of Elizabeth. What became of Henry?

I've been chasing Elliotts, specifically Zimri Elliott marr Patsy Moser. Were any other Elliotts in the Lindley emigration? I may have to start on the Lindleys at some point, I see Eleanor Lindley m Henry Jones 1730 in Chester PA.

Who is the Mary Moser 2 houses down from Zimri in Orange Co IN 1820?

Thanks, Karen

Re: Mosers & inlaws in early Randolph Co NC

gmosier1  (View posts) Posted: 25 Aug 2009 1:02PM GMT
Classification: Query
The Mary Moser with the passel of kids in the 1820 Orange is Mary Haskett Moser, the wife of John Moser (I) who was Tobias Moser’s eldest son. The Blanchard biographical sketch for their son John Mosier (II), says that the elder John was “killed” in Orange County in 1821. That must be wrong, since it would appear that he was already deceased at the time of the 1820 census. The other Mosers in the 1820 Orange are Tobias and his second son Adam.

I know nothing at all about Zimri Elliott’s family, although there is a later Moser/Elliott connection. Kesiah Mosier, a daughter of John Mosier (II), married Josiah Elliott in 1851, Morgan County Indiana. This Elliott family supposedly traces back to Thomas Elliott who came from North Carolina and settled in Jackson County Indiana. I have no idea if these people were related to Zimri Elliott. The information I have on this Elliott family comes from Lucille Farley Speers’ privately published book entitled "Francis Marion Farley and Lulu Cain Farley: Their Ancestors and Descendants." (1974) I have examined this work a couple of times and found the research somewhat lacking in some places, so anything on the Elliott family will need to be reworked. The book used to be available in pdf on the ancestry web site, but I don’t know if it still is.

Re: Mosers & inlaws in IN and early Randolph Co NC

KarenWTreacy  (View posts) Posted: 1 Sep 2009 4:59PM GMT
Classification: Query
Gary, I was at the DAR library last week, and have a copy of John Moser's bio from the county history, so Mary Moser is now nicely socketed into place. In the digital images there is an excerpt from a Mosier family Bible, belonging to Robert Mosier, s/o Tobias & Nancy. Do you know more about this Bible, do you have a copy of it? This page only covered Robert Mosier, his wife & children. There was also an extract from the Attica Ledger showing "Robert Mosier, son of Tobias and Nancy Mosier, died at daughter's home in this city. Aged 75"

Karen

Re: Mosers & inlaws in early Randolph Co NC

YvonneLStrong  (View posts) Posted: 3 Sep 2009 4:38PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Gary,

I still haven't found my illusive Thomas R. Mosier who married Susanna Boatman. Is there any chance Thomas and brother, William, fit into the Randolph Mosiers? Also, I have been working with a gal who is an Elliott descendant concerning the Abraham Elliott line in North Carolina. I have a grandmother who married an Elliott in North Carolina in about 1752. I will check my Elliott info and see if there is mention of Zimri.

It's good to see you are still working diligently on the Mosier line. I became discouraged and set aside my Mosier research. However, I think I will dig in again!!!

Take care.

Re: Mosers & inlaws in early Randolph Co NC

YvonneLStrong  (View posts) Posted: 3 Sep 2009 4:39PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Mosier, Elliott, Boatman
Hi Gary,

I still haven't found my illusive Thomas R. Mosier who married Susanna Boatman. Is there any chance Thomas and brother, William, fit into the Randolph Mosiers? Also, I have been working with a gal who is an Elliott descendant concerning the Abraham Elliott line in North Carolina. I have a grandmother who married an Elliott in North Carolina in about 1752. I will check my Elliott info and see if there is mention of Zimri.

It's good to see you are still working diligently on the Mosier line. I became discouraged and set aside my Mosier research. However, I think I will dig in again!!!

Take care.

Re: Mosers & inlaws in early Randolph Co NC

gmosier1  (View posts) Posted: 3 Sep 2009 5:48PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Yvonne,

To tell you the truth, I haven’t done much either after I finished up my German project two years ago. Mary and I did spend five weeks n Germany this summer and I took a lot of new pictures of the Moser sites in and around Woernitz (south of Rothenburg ob der Tauber), that is the total sum of my Moser production recently.

As I have mentioned to you before, I have only two wild guesses as to who your Thomas and William might have been. They are as follows:

1.
Tobias Moser m. Nancy Myers
Adam Moser, 2nd son of Tobias. Wife is unknown. Died Martin County, IN before 1850
John Moser, probably 1st son of Adam, probably married twice.
His first marriage was probably to Charity Walker, Orange County IN, 1823.
Guilford County NC land records in 1831 show Charity Walker Moser as one of the heirs of her father James Walker. In 1841, the “three children” of Charity Moser, deceased are shown as heirs of Charity’s mother Betsy Walker. I have never been able to find any other record of these unnamed children. John Moser’s second marriage was probably to Hester Burris in 1839, and no older children ever show up with their family, so they were probably all dead before 1850. The possibility exists though that two of them might have been your William and Thomas.
2.
Tobias Moser, etc.
John Moser, 1st. son of Tobias, married Mary Haskett
Alexander Moser, 6th (?) son of John Moser married Rebecca Dittemore, 1835, Owen County, IN
Alexander (certainly) and Rebecca (probably) were both dead before November 1847. The VERY fragmentary probate records in Morgan County, IN mentions “heirs” (as in more than 1). They certainly had at least one son, Thomas (b. Indiana about 1838) who was living with Wallace Dittemore (probably his uncle) on the 1850 Buchanan County, Missouri census. There is no record of him after 1850. Perhaps he had a brother William who was the second of the “heirs”, I simply don’t know.

Those are really the only two leads I have for you out of the Randolph County NC>Orange County, IN> etc, etc, etc family. Sorry I don’t have more as I know you have been searching for a long time.

Good Luck!!!
Gary

Re: Mosers & inlaws in early Randolph Co NC

ystrong  (View posts) Posted: 4 Sep 2009 4:16AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Mosier, Dever, Deuer, Dener, Bible
Thanks Gary,

I will keep plodding along. You know there is still that unknown Thomas Mosier in 1850, a. 14, b. IN, living in New York with William Dever?, Dener?, Deuer?

Also in 1850 there is a Thomas Mosier, b 1808 in New York enumerated in the Milam and Williamson, Milam, Texas census living with the Adam Bible family. I have never been able to run this Thomas down.

If you remember my Thomas R. Mosier married in Texas.
Is it possible that these two Thomas' are father and son?

I just included this info, Gary, in hopes that someone reading about the Randolph Co., NC, Mosiers might see this and perhaps add a clue or two.

Yvonne

Re: Mosers & inlaws in early Randolph Co NC

KarenWTreacy  (View posts) Posted: 10 Sep 2009 9:15PM GMT
Classification: Query
Who is Mary Moser with the 1844 will in Randolph Co NC?
Thanks,
Karen

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