Seeking information about Andrew Reginald Malcolm b. 29 Jan., 1891; his brother Norman; father Andrew Reginald and mother Eleanor (Martin); grandfather possibly John Malcolm born in Scotland about 1820. Records do not all agree and there seem to be quite a few family trees attributed to this John Malcolm. Can anyone help?

I am helping another gentleman with his Ontario Malcolms. I will help you also but I need more info. Where was your Andrew born? are you sure of the date (1891)? I find no Andrew in 1901 or 1911 that has parents Andrew & Eleanor. What I do is from the birth find were they were born and follow the census back. Documenting children, marriages, deaths etc. Angie

Would this be your Andrew? Toronto Jan. 1890 #14608-90 Andrew Malcolm 23, plumber, York twp., 109 Wilton Ave. s/o John & Ann, md. Nettie (Nellie?) Martin 23, Caledonia, 52 Northcote Ave, d/o William & blank. If this is your Andrew I have them on a few census. (Neillie can be a nickname for Eleanor) Was your Eleanor's father William? Angie

Yes, these are my people. I think it was Nettie (after her middle name Antoinette) and one record has her as Hettie. So far no line on Norman at all. Family history has it that Eleanor died a few months afther the first child (Andrew Reginald) and his father later remarried. We can't find any record of the second marriage and presumably Norman was a product of that marriage. Norman and the second marriage are the big mystery for our family. The child Andrew (my grandfather) was raised by the Martin family but after coming to the States broke off all contact with Ontario relatives. We did find out that he married Edna Lillian Crew a few years before he left - I don't know if my father or grandmother knew about the first wife, or if she was still living when he crossed the border. Thanks for the help, if you run across anything else please let me know.

I am sure of the date - Andrew Reginald Malcom Malcolm, born January 29, 1891 in York, Ontario to Andrew Reginald Malcolm and Eleanor Annette Malcolm. On his marriage certificate to my grandmother he just lists Toronto as the birthplace but hte date is the same. The birth was registered by Esther Malcolm, Andrews sister and the youngest of seven children of John and Anne Malcolm. In the last few days I've stayed up late and found marriage records for three of Johns daughters (Anne, Esther, and Mary) so now I need to look through records for the Murphy, Hendry and Gribbon families. It's a bit much for a beginner. So far I have found John and Annes death certificates; located the family on the 1871, 81, and 91 cencus records; I am pretty sure I have Nettie (Eleanor's) death certificate from March of 1891, Andrew II's marriage certificate, and there are some business records putting the elder and younger Andrews and Andrew Sr's brother William in Guelph in 1915 - 18 or so. Andrew came to the states around 1922, supposedly illegally, and never returned. I don't have any line on the younger John Malcolm, born around 1856 just before they left Ireland. I have a cencus records showing the Nettie Martin family household but not much else on them.

If you think I have any info that would be of help please let me know. What is the name of the person you are looking for, if it is not poor ettiquete to ask?

My email address is batmalcolm@hotmail.com.

Marjorie

I was helping Ross find his Ann Wilson b. Glanford who married a John Malcolm located in north Norfolk. I gave him the data I found yesterday. (We did find his lady).
While I was at the archives I found 2 family Malcolm histories & I did see the name Gribbon mentioned. His line is John Malcolm s/o Charles & Elizabeth. Charles & Elizabeth are here in 1852 he is 48 she is 43 both were to have been born in upper Canada. I am away for 3 weeks but when I get home I will copy anything pertinate for you. Angie

Thanks. I may be on the wrong track then. We thought our John was from Scotland by way of Ireland where his wife Ann and eldest son John were born. Gribbon was the married name of the eldest daughter Anne (she lived with her parents for a while after marriage according to cencus records; later on when she was with her husband her brother Andrew was also part of her household). To many Annes, Johns and Andrews, and not enough exact dates and locations unfortunately.

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When I reread your message again the name "Glanford" jumped out at me. I found a death record for a Hettie Malcolm, deceased 15 March, 1891 in York. The record says she was born in Glanford. I wondered if this could actually be Nettie (the original document is in pretty bad shape) who we always understood passed away either in childbirth or when Andrew Reginald (born 29 Jan. 1891)was an infant. Her marriage certificate states she was born in Caledonia. I haven't been able to locate Glanford, and I while I assume your mention of Glanford was citing a name it seems like quite a coincidence. Any thoughts?

mm

When I reread your message again the name "Glanford" jumped out at me. I found a death record for a Hettie Malcolm, deceased 15 March, 1891 in York. The record says she was born in Glanford. I wondered if this could actually be Nettie (the original document is in pretty bad shape) who we always understood passed away either in childbirth or when Andrew Reginald (born 29 Jan. 1891)was an infant. Her marriage certificate states she was born in Caledonia. I haven't been able to locate Glanford, and I while I assume your mention of Glanford was citing a name it seems like quite a coincidence. Any thoughts?

mm

Glanford is the top of Hamilton city which is not that very far from Toronto. We could not figure out how Anne met John Malcolm except she had relatives here in Norfolk. Ross did not want to go any farther on his Malcolms & the archive has some good stuff it has a hard cover Malcolm history & a lot of querries & answers one even told about the rebelion of 1837 & how some of them got into trouble. I am not sure if I can get in next week but if I do I will copy the parts that mention your family & I am sure that it did. I just can not remember which it was. The Charles that was born in Canada his father was born in Scotland. Certianly that Hettie could be Nettie we have been transcribing census & N & H as well as W is easy to confuse. Sometimes we play fill in the blanks. Is you Nettie on the 1891 census? Are there any relatives in Glanford? I think your Andrew was md but out & working no wife with him in Toronto. She may have been with family having the baby.