Loudoun - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: BALES

mearm123 — 2009-11-24 20:21:08Z

Just letting anyone interested in Caleb Bales, Their is found a Caleb Bales in Iowa Census of Warren County, 1850's forward.

Re: All the Taylors mentioned

PAYNEBARBARA2 — 2009-11-14 21:13:39Z

I have searched everywhere for info on a Levi Taylor (1807 SC-1884Ga) for years with no luck. Perhaps you can help. There is some stories that the name was once Aday or some spelling as such. He married a Martha M Hay in 1832. Her name is difficult to read in a family Bible. It could be Martha MKay or MHay.
Thanks so much for any help. Barbara

Re: Chamblin Family of Loudoun Co, VA

CandyEJames — 2009-11-09 04:10:05Z

My grandmother's brother, George Everhart, was married to Esther Chamblin. Both families were from Loudoun County.

Re: Chamblin Family of Loudoun Co, VA

curiousinAlexandria — 2009-11-08 23:06:19Z

Interestingly enough, my grandfather, father, and brother...all named John Chamblin. My grandfatther was from Loudoun County.

William Hummer

CECarroll1945 — 2009-11-05 16:38:07Z

Searching for a marriage record for William Hummer prior to 1830. He is listed on the 1830 census with wife and five children, all below 10 years of age.

Re: Rhoda Evans of Loudoun County, Virginia

duncan8151 — 2009-11-02 12:44:08Z

Here are the entries from my book.

Bk:Pg: 2C:433 Date: 12/24/1802 RcCt: 11 Jul 1803
Rhoda EVANS of Ldn (Admr & wd/o John BOYD dec'd, died intestate) and George ROSE & wife Jane (d/o John BOYD) to Ludwell LEE of Ldn. Bargain and sale of 300ac. Wit: John LYONS, Wm. COLEMAN, Wm. W. WILLIAMS, Jno. ROSE, Presley SANDERS, James ROSE.

Bk:Pg: 2E:011 Date: ___ RcCt: 10 Apr 1804
James BOYD, John KEMP & wife Nancy late Nancy BOYD, John BOYD, William BOYD and John BOYD as Guardian of Elizabeth BOYD which John William and Elizabeth are ch/o William BOYD dec'd, William WATSON & wife Polly late Polly BOYD a d/o Elizabeth BOYD and George ROSE & wife Jane late Jane BOYD d/o John BOYD dec'd, and said person on behalf of Will BELL a s/o Jane BOYD dec'd who are the legal distributees of the estate of Thomas BOYD dec'd to Charles BINNS of Ldn. Power of Attorney for sale of property. Wit: Jas. HAMILTON, Josiah MOFFETT Jr., George HAMMAT.

Bk:Pg: 2E:012 Date: 4/10/1804 RcCt: 10 Apr 1804
James BOYD & wife Sinah, John KEMP & wife Nancy, John BOYD, William BOYD, William WATSON & wife Polly, George ROSE & wife Jane of Ldn to Presley CORDELL of Ldn. Bargain and sale of 100ac, land conveyed by Wilson C. SELDON & wife Nelley to Thomas BOYD now dec'd, adj Wilson Cary SELDON, Burges BALL.
Bk:Pg: 2E:016 Date: ___ RcCt: 10 Apr 1804
James BOYD to Presley CORDELL. Bond - Thomas BOYD died intestate leaving 131ac in Ldn and brother James BOYD, sister Nancy who married John KEMP, John BOYD, William BOYD and Elizabeth BOYD which John Williams and Elizabeth are children of William BOYD dec'd another brother, William WATSON who married Polly a daughter of sister Elizabeth BOYD, George ROSE who married Jane a daughter of brother John BOYD dec'd and William BELL alias BOYD a son of sister Jane BOYD dec'd; Elizabeth BOYD was a minor when they sold the land to CORDELL and William BELL has been missing for 7 years; once Elizabeth is of age and William BELL is found the land goes to CORDELL.
Bk:Pg: 2E:018 Date: 3/30/1804 RcCt: 10 Apr 1804
James BOYD, John KEMP, John BOYD, William BOYD, William WATSON, George ROSE and John BOYD as Guardian of Elizabeth BOYD and on behalf of William BELL as representatives of Thomas BOYD dec'd. Agreement - Negro woman Anne late the property of Thomas BOYD dec'd is an incumberance and is sold to James BOYD who will care for her at the lowest price.
Bk:Pg: 2E:019 Date: 4/10/1804 RcCt: 10 Apr 1804
James BOYD, John KEMP, John BOYD, William BOYD, William WATSON, and George ROSE of Ldn to James BOYD. Bill of sale for Negro James alias Jim.

Bk:Pg: 2E:051 Date: 3/29/1804 RcCt: 10 Apr 1804
Wilson Cary SELDON & wife Nelly of Ldn to James BOYD, John KEMP & wife Nancy, John BOYD, William BOYD, Elizabeth BOYD, William WATSON & wife Polly, Geo. ROSE & wife Jane and William BELL as legal representatives of Thomas BOYD dec'd. Bargain and sale of 31ac. Wit: C. BINNS, Alexr COOPER Jr., Wm. COTTON, Samuel MURREY, Thos. FOUCH.

Bk:Pg: 2K:124 Date: __ Mar 1807 RcCt: 11 Oct 1808
George ROSE of Fairfield Co Oh formerly of Ldn & wife Jane (formerly Jane BOYD an heir of Thomas BOYD dec’d of Ldn) to Aaron SANDERS of Ldn. Power of attorney. Wit: Isaac LAROWE, Saml. M. EDWARDS.

Pat Duncan
GenNutLdn@msn.com

Looking for John Evans Family and C. Victor Evins

Pb_Caccia — 2009-11-02 04:38:05Z

Hello, I'm trying to get in touch with C. Victor Evins who left the following message on the Loudoun mailing list 15 Sept 2000. His email address is no longer valid.

"I spent the last three days in Chester Co., Pa. searching for the origins of a John Evans and his family who appeared in Loudoun County, Virginia in 1763. They lived on Sugarland Run near Herndon. If anyone is interested I did have some success and would gladly share the details. The family consisted of John Evans (father), Elizabeth (wife); sons: Griffith, William, Richard, David, and Joshua; daughters: Mary, Amy or Emmet who married a Thomas, and Elizabeth. John's will is in Loudoun County and is dated 10/4/1766. I learned that John purchased land in Charles Town Township, Chester Co., Pa in 1724 and lived there until 1763 when he moved with most of his family to Loudoun County, Va. He was a blacksmith, as were most of his sons. His sons David and Griffith Evans have wills in Tredyffrin Township, Chester County, Pa."

Re: Rhoda Evans of Loudoun County, Virginia

Pb_Caccia — 2009-11-02 04:27:05Z

Further information - my cousin and I just discovered Rhoda's step-daughter, Jane (BOYD) ROSE and her husband, named in the 24 Dec 1802 deed, moved to Fairfield Co., OH, very close to Rhoda's family in Licking Co., OH. John and James ROSE witnessed that entry. I'm looking for more information about this ROSE family. A possible descendant in Fairfield name a daughter "Rhoda Jane ROSE" and I need to investigate all ties among ROSE, BOYD, and EVANS.

Pat, if you are still online, could you please check a couple ROSE references in your Index to Loudoun Co., VA Land Deed Books 2A-2M, 1800-1810? I believe pgs. 88, 90 and 201 refer to a Thomas ROSE dec'd who is somehow related to George ROSE and his wife Jane BOYD. Or if someone else has a copy of this text, would you respond? Thank you, Peggy

Thank You _ For Loudoun Virginia Genealogy Book Information

My_2009 — 2009-11-01 03:42:54Z

Hello I Would Like To Thank You Very Much For All The Hard Work You Do For Other People In Doing Genealogy Research From Loudoun Virginia And Taking Time To Write Everything Down In Your Genealogy Book For Other To View And Sharing Data And History For Family To View About There Ancestor. My Family Greatly Appreciate Everything You Have Given And Share For Me And My Family Alone. Thank You Again

Re: Lewis Legg & Elizabeth Beavers

cemy47 — 2009-10-31 03:44:26Z

I agree. I just can not find proof of my assumption. I am also curious if Fielding Turner who married Anne Lewis in 1732 was Lewis' uncle.

Lewis Legg, Elijah Legg, Fielding Legg, Willis Legg and Zeph Legg I find together in different sources, but I can not prove the family connection.

Re: Lewis Legg & Elizabeth Beavers

Gary_W_Watson — 2009-10-30 21:34:17Z

Lewis & Elizabeth (Beavers) Legg were contemporaries of Elijah & Tabitha (Henley) Legg so it is more likely Lewis and Elijah were brothers.

Re: County Lieutenant

ronaldtroxle — 2009-10-30 14:19:22Z

Thanks Pat. This is really interesting info.

Re: County Lieutenant

duncan8151 — 2009-10-30 12:02:36Z

The following are from the CD "Loudoun Co. Order Books 1757-1786" by Pat Duncan:

Order Book G, 12 March 1781
[p. 320] Thomas SHORES produced a Commissioner for his Excellency the Governor appointing him Captain of the Militia in this County and was sworn.

Frances ADAMS produced a Commission from his Excellency the Governor appointing him Ensign of the Militia in this County and was sworn.

Order Book G, 13 March 1781
[p. 328] Upon hearing the complaint of Capt. Alex'r. McMAKEN on Capt. Jacob REEDS being recommended Major in preference of him. Appearing to the Court that Capt. McMAKEN's Commission is of an older date than the said Capt. REEDS, ordered that Alexander McMAKEN be recommended to the Governor as a fit person to be by him commissioned as Major of the Militia in this County. The former order is ordered to be set aside, it being made on a supposition that Capt. REEDS commission was older than said Capt. McMAKEN's.

Hugh DOUGLASS, Gent. produced a commission from his Excellency the Governor appointing him first Lieutenant of the Militia of this County and was sworn.

Josiah MOFFETT, Gent. produced a commission from his Excellency the Governor appointing him Captain of the Militia in this County and was sworn.

John BINNS, Gent. produced a commission from his Excellency the Governor appointing him first Lieutenant of the Militia in this County and was sworn.

Charles BINNS Junr. produced a commission from his Excellency the Governor appointing him second Lieutenant of the Militia in this County and was sworn.

John McGEACH produced a commission from his Excellency the Governor appointing him a Captain in the Militia of this County and was sworn.

[p. 329] John ALEXANDER, Gent. produced a commission from his Excellency the Governor appointing him Lieutenant Colonel of the Militia in this County and was sworn.

Order Book G, 10 April 1781
[p. 332] John LINTON, Gent. produced a commission from his Excellency the Governor appointing him Captain of the Militia in this County and was sworn.

Order Book G, 14 May 1781
[p. 355] Samson TRAMMELL, Gent. produced a commission from his Excellency the Governor appointing him Captain of the Militia in this County and was sworn.

Hugh DOUGLASS, Gent. produced a Commission from his Excellency the Governor appointing him Captain of the Militia in this county and was sworn.

Samuel NOLAND, Gent. produced a Commission from his Excellency the Governor appointing him Captain of the Militia in this County and was sworn.

[p. 356] William DEBELL, Gent. produced a commission from his Excellency the Governor appointing him first Lieutenant of the Militia in this County and was sworn.

Smith KING, Gent. produced a Commission from his Excellency the Governor appointing him second Lieutenant of the Militia in this County and was sworn.

Thomas KENNON, Gent. produced a Commissioner from his Excellency the Governor appointing him Captain of the Militia in this County and was sworn.

Order Book G, 11 June 1781
[p. 368] Abraham DEHAVEN, Gent. produced a commission from his Excellency the Governor appointing him first Lieutenant of the Militia in this County and was sworn.

Jacob REED, Gent. produced a commission from his Excellency the Governor appointing him Major of the Militia in this County and offered to quality to the same but it appearing to the Court that there is at present dispute between REED and Alexander McMAKEN, Gent. which of them shall be Major. Ordered that the commission be kept up until the said dispute is heard and determined by the Governor and Council.

Order Book G, 8 October 1781
[p. 375] Simon TRIPLETT Esqr. produced a commission from his Excellency the Governor appointing him Colonel of the Militia in this County and was sworn.

Pat Duncan
GenNutLdn@msn.com

Re: County Lieutenant

ronaldtroxle — 2009-10-30 00:48:21Z

The county Lieutenant would have been the most senior officer of the various Loudoun County militia units. I am looking for who this person was in 1781. He would have been the one responsible for ordering the militia to march to Yorktown in the mid to latter part of 1781. From some of the research I have done the Governor would have notified the county Lieutenant to prepare his militia for action. It would then be up to the county Lieutentant which militia units he chose. I was hoping someone would have some kind of record as to who this persons name was.

Re: County Lieutenant

duncan8151 — 2009-10-30 00:24:56Z

County militia officer appointments were often recorded in the Order Books.

Who are you looking for?

Pat Duncan
GenNutLdn@msn.com

County Lieutenant

ronaldtroxle — 2009-10-30 00:19:39Z

Would anyone have a list of the Loudoun County lieutenants during the Revolutionary War?

Re: BAKER, MANN or SCHUMACHER/SHUMAKER of Lovettsville 1770-1850

TigerLilly1960 — 2009-10-28 04:25:10Z

You are correct on the dob for Mary Miles...I have the correct info on the TribalPages tree that I have on there; Somehow I messed up the numbers when I posted here. Thanks for bringing it to my attention--I hate to make mistakes, so I need to stop starring at the screen so long!
I am using census counts, marriage & birth records, & a lot of help from the kindness of strangers for what I have gathered beyond my paternal grandfather.
I appreciate any info you may have as well!

Re: BAKER, MANN or SCHUMACHER/SHUMAKER of Lovettsville 1770-1850

harbushka — 2009-10-27 09:48:50Z

Check out the family trees section of ancestry.com. there are several references to Joseph H. Shumaker and Mary there. Also, the census records show Mary born in 1832, the marriage was in 1853. There are several trees with joseph shown as the son of John, who was the son of George. It has lots of info on the family trees section, although most is not documented, still I would start there for clues that you can follow up on. Look at the one for Peter Schumacher of Alsace, it seems to be most accurate. Also, look at the 1910 census. Joseph is living with his youngest daughter Rosa, who is married to a Virts. She is listed by ancestry as being 20 years old, but someone can't read, she is actually 30 in the 1910 census. Look at the census itself, not at the ancestry "translation" which is incorrect.

Re: BAKER, MANN or SCHUMACHER/SHUMAKER of Lovettsville 1770-1850

harbushka — 2009-10-27 09:18:20Z

Well first of all, you need to check on your dates for Mary. If she was really born in 1853 then she cannot be the mother of these children who are born beginning in 1854. Are you using census records? Church records? How did you find her maiden name? Often times parents named their kids after themselves or even the grandparents, so it is important to be sure you have the right generation. I would look at the church records if possible. I know they exist because I have seen them. Your local Family History center (Mormon genealogy center) will have access to them. I will check my notes to see if I can find the film number for you. They go back to about 1792 so this family should be in there. I will also look in my records to see if I can find a Joseph. Most of my research is on the Becker/Baker family, not on the Shumakers, but I have some info to look at. I will get back to you.

Re: BAKER, MANN or SCHUMACHER/SHUMAKER of Lovettsville 1770-1850

TigerLilly1960 — 2009-10-26 07:12:52Z

I had the names confused (starring at the computer too long)...it was
SHUMAKER, Joseph H
b. Apr 07 1828
Lovettsville, Loudoun, VA
d. Jan 01 1911
Lovettsville, Loudoun, VA
e. Burial
Jan 1911
MOUNT OLIVET METHODIST, Lovettsville, Loudoun, VA
m. MILES, Mary C.
b. May 1853
, LOUDOUN, VA
d. Jun 18 1909

I show these for children:
SHUMAKER, JOHN T.
b. Aug 18 1854
, LOUDOUN , VA

JOHN
b. ABT 1856
LOVETTSVILLE, LOUDOUN, VA

William B
b. Sep 03 1856
, , VA
d. May 26 1940
m. SPEAKS, Christena

Virginia
b. ABT 1859
LOVETTSVILLE, LOUNDOUN , VA

Margaret (`Mary`?)J
b. Jul 14 1859
, LOUDOUN, VA
m. AXLINE, John

Alice
b. ABT 1862
, LOUDOUN, VA
m. VIRTS, William

Joseph Luther
b. ABT 1865
,LOUDOUN, VA
d. 1946
m. ARNOLD, Annie

Minnie E
b. Apr 23 1868
, LOUDOUN, VA
d. Mar 10 1896

Rosie Ellen
b. Jun 06 1878
, LOUDOUN, VA
m. VIRTS, Charles

SHOEMAKER, Thomas
b. ABT 1856
LOVETTSVILLE, LOUDOUN, VA

I have no idea who Joseph's parents or siblings are, or anything else about Mary

Tavenner Homes

nannersjohnsonn — 2009-10-25 02:31:31Z

George Tavenner started his home WINODEE before the Revolutionary War.
Richard Tavenner built his house HARMONY HALL about 1786.
Both homes are located in Hamilton.

I have been to both homes and my cousin who is visiting his son in Maryland on a military base wanted to see the houses belonging to our ancestors. I gave him directions.
He went to Hamilton.

Said he could spot Richard Tavenner's House right across the Harmony Methodist Church on Colonial Way but that it had been covered with stucco and painted grey.

He said George Tavenner's house must have either been torn down or covered up with new materials. Its a little harder to explain where WINODEE is.
One can see the back of the house from a little right of way path off Tavenner Lane running off Colonial Way just pas Hamilton Station Road but to see the front of the house, one has to go back out to Colonial Way, drive down Hamilton Station Road and turn into Winodee Subdivision onto Winodee Way.

I cannot believe that ANYONE would mar these 200 + year old houses by covering up the original exteriors and have to believe that my cousin didn't see the proper houses.

Does anyone live in Loudon Co. and is familiar with these historical homes?

Re: Bryant and Trammel or Trammell Family

Barbpie2 — 2009-10-25 02:27:01Z

DJ, Sorry I took so long to reply. The frederick Foote that lives in Sacramento decends from Frederick Forrest Foote, Sr. and his second wife Margaret. Franklin Foote and Della Jackson were his grandparents. Della was my grandfather's sister. My grandfathers's brother, James Munson Jackson married Margaret Foote, daughter of Frederick Forrest Foote Foote, Jr.

I'm not too sure I have this right, too many Frederick Footes, and too many Jacksons, its quite confusing

Re: Martial - Marshall

Pb_Caccia — 2009-10-25 00:52:53Z

Looking for more information on these same DAVIS and EVANS families. WHEN did they move to Loudoun and where did they come from in PA? Do you know more now?

John EVANS (d. 1766 Loudoun) m. Elizabeth (d. 1772 Loudoun) occ. Blacksmith
1. Griffith
2. William m. Mary HANNA (maiden name DAVIS)
3. Richard
4. David (d. Chester Co., PA)
5. Joshua (d. 1773 Loudoun) m. Martha
6. Mary m. Mr. GARDNER
7. Amy/Ann/ Emmet m. Mr. THOMAS
8. Elizabeth m. William FOX (d. 1772 Loudoun)

DAVIS siblings: Parents unknown
1. Nathan (d. 1770 Loudoun) m. Mary
2. John (still living 1794 Loudoun) m. Elizabeth occ. Wheelwright
3. Enoch (still living 1794 Loudoun) m. Judith occ. Carpenter
4. Mary (still living 1800) m. 1st to HANNA 2nd to Wm EVANS
5. Anne m. Mr. MATHIAS

Re: BAKER, MANN or SCHUMACHER/SHUMAKER of Lovettsville 1770-1850

harbushka — 2009-10-23 01:24:41Z

Give me some idea of when John and Mary lived, and who their children were, or siblings if you know them. Also, where were they living? Are they in any census records?

Re: Marriage of Maria Eva to Frederick Ridenbaugh

BJMEANS — 2009-10-23 00:51:45Z

Thanks Pat. I will check Maryland records. These Ridenbaugh are driving me crazy. I have been researching this family for what seems forever. So please forgive an old lady if she has a tendency to forget things she has received. My filing system needs to updated.

Re: BAKER, MANN or SCHUMACHER/SHUMAKER of Lovettsville 1770-1850

TigerLilly1960 — 2009-10-22 18:12:21Z

I know this is a very old thread, but I'm hoping for some info on the Shumaker line in it. I am just now getting back to John & Mary Shumaker.
I would like to know how to get in touch with the granddaughter that has the family Bible, if you have that info.
TigerLilly@juno.com

Re: Rhoda Evans of Loudoun County, Virginia

duncan8151 — 2009-10-21 22:26:07Z

The age for being tithable was 16 years old. I doubt if at 16 he would have been the head of a household.

For additional information about Personal Property Tax Lists, go to: http://www.lva.virginia.gov/public/guides/rn3_persprop.htm

Pat Duncan
GenNutLdn@msn.com

Re: Rhoda Evans of Loudoun County, Virginia

Pb_Caccia — 2009-10-21 21:54:12Z

In 1787 he had to be 21+ years old? Am I correct?

Re: Marriage of Maria Eva to Frederick Ridenbaugh

duncan8151 — 2009-10-21 21:31:17Z

There is no marriage for Frederick Ridenbaugh recorded in Loudoun. Be aware that quite a few early marriages were not recorded, in part due to circuit rider ministers who often left the county without giving their returns to the court.

It is also quite possible that Frederick married in Frederick County, Maryland.

As I stated before, the marriage of Maria Eva and Christian Beegle did occur in Loudoun.

From "Early Church Records of Loudoun 1745-1800" by Hiatt:
New Jerusalem Lutheran Church Records
Christian Bugly married Maria Eva Reutenbach, Friederich Reutenbach's surviving widow, 15 Dec 1784.

Pat Duncan
GenNutLdn@msn.com

Re: Rhoda Evans of Loudoun County, Virginia

duncan8151 — 2009-10-21 21:22:08Z

Personal Property Tax Lists began in 1782 and continued every years except 1808, when no lists were taken.

1787A Second Battalion Evans, Thomas
1788C Second Battalion Evans, Thomas
1790A [Second Battalion] Evans, Thomas
1791A Second Battalion Evans, Thomas
1792A Second Battalion Evans, Thomas
1793B Second Battalion Evans, Thomas
1794B Second Battalion Evans, Thomas
1795A First Battalion Evans, Thomas
1795B Second Battalion Evans, Thomas
1796B Cameron Parish (2nd Battalion) Evans, Thos.
1797B Cameron Parish (Second Battalion) Evans, Thos.
1798B Cameron Parish Evans, Thos.
1799A Cameron Parish Evans, Thos.
1800A Cameron Parish Evans, Thos.
1801B Cameron Parish Evans, Thomas

Thomas owned no slaves but did own horses. He was the head of the household on all the above lists.

Pat Duncan
GenNutLdn@msn.com

Re: Rhoda Evans of Loudoun County, Virginia

Pb_Caccia — 2009-10-21 21:11:18Z

Pat, if it's not too much trouble could you look up Rhoda's husband, Thomas Evans in the Loudoun Co. tax lists?

Online, I find a Thomas Evans in 1787 List C; 1788 List C and 1800 List A. Are their others? What is the earliest and how old would he be?

Is there an 1801 Tax list? You don't have Rhoda and her horses that year.
Thank you.

Parents of Frederick Ridenbaugh born abt 1750

BJMEANS — 2009-10-21 20:35:49Z

I have been trying to find out who the parents of Frederick Ridenbaugh (sp) who I found was living in Loudoun Virginia around the late 1770's early 1780's with his wife Maria Eva
maiden name unknown and their children; Peter R. born abt 1770,George R. born abt 1772, Adam R. born about 1775, Frederick R. born about 1776 and Elizabeth R. born about 1782. Is there anyone out there who may have a connection to this Ridenbaugh family? There are so many variations to this name that have relatives in various states, that I feel there has to be some sort of connection. This family had to come to the U.S. from some European country around the the early 1600's or 1700's. What part of the United States did they first settle in? What was his name? Did he come with his family, wife and children or other relatives?

Marriage of Maria Eva to Frederick Ridenbaugh

BJMEANS — 2009-10-21 20:18:00Z

Can anyone tell me what year did Maria Eva (nee unknown)born abt 1750, marry Frederick Ridenbaugh (sp) born abt 1750? Did they get married in Loudoun Co., Virginia. or Frederick Co. Maryland? They both lived in Loudoun Co. VA around 1780. After the death of Frederick Ridenbaugh (sp)abt 1782 Maria Eva married Christian Karl Beagle (sp) in 1784 in I believe Loudoun Co. VA.

Re: Cooper family

aspark11 — 2009-10-21 16:54:56Z

Thank you. Keep up the good work. Al

Re: Cooper family

duncan8151 — 2009-10-21 15:21:49Z

I am co-authoring a book on Church Records of Loudoun 1800-1830. The only entry for a John Cooper is as a sponsor with his wife Magdalena for the 1826 baptism of Leanna Smith at the German Reform Church.

Pat Duncan
GenNutLdn@msn.com

Re: Cooper family

aspark11 — 2009-10-21 15:15:27Z

Wow. According to the info I have, John Cooper was b. in 1785, m. in Loudoun in 1810; was living there when their first child, Sarah, was b. in 1812; but was living in Belmont, Co. Oh. when their second child, Jonah, was b. in 1814. He would have turned 16 in March 1801, and was abt. 28 when he moved away. They were a very religous family. Do you know of any church records available from that time? Thanks, Al

Re: Frederick Ridenbaugh and family of Loudoun, VA.

BJMEANS — 2009-10-21 13:38:30Z

Thanks for the information, and yes I have received some information from the Loudoun Will Book and I think I got it from you. When I posted the question about photos I was hoping that some relative or someone would have old family pictues hidden somewhere and would like to share them.
Again thank you

Re: Frederick Ridenbaugh and family of Loudoun, VA.

duncan8151 — 2009-10-20 22:19:03Z

Considering the time period, find a picture would be difficult.

I assume you already have information from the Loudoun Will Books.

From the Loudoun Co. Personal Property Tax Lists. Note that the term Battalion was used for both militia and tax purposes and denoted a district. Only males 16 years or older would appear on the lists.

1782B First Battalion Ridenbaugh, Frederick
1792B First Battalion Ridingbough, George
1794A First Battalion Ridingbough, Frederick residing with Waltman, Jacob and Waltman, John
1794A First Battalion Ridingbough, Peter residing with Rooss, John [Rooff]
1795A First Battalion Ridingbough, Peter residing with Roose, Margrate (not tithable) [Roofe]
1795A First Battalion Redingbough, George residing with Waltman, Jacob and Waltman, John
1796A First Battalion Ridingbough, Peter
1797A First Battalion Ridingbough, Peter
1798A [First District] Ridingbough, Frederick residing with Everhart, Jacob
1798A [First District] Ridingbough, Peter
1799B [First District] Ridingbough, Peter
1800B First Battalion Ridingbough, Fredrick
1800B First Battalion Ridingbough, Peter
1801A First Battalion Ridingbough, Peter
1802A First Battalion Ridingbough, Peter
1803A First Battalion Ridingbough, Peter
1804A First Battalion Ridingbough, Peter
1805A First Battalion Ridingbough, Peter
1806A First Battalion Ridingbough, Peggy*
1807A First Battalion Ridenbaugh, Frederick
1809A First Battalion Ridingbough, Frederick
1809A First Battalion Ridingbough, Margarett*
1810A First Battalion Ridingbough, Frederick
1811A First Battalion Redinghough, Margarett (not tithable)
1812A First Battalion Ridingbough, Margaret (not tithable) & 1 son
1813B 1st Battalion Ridingbough, Margarett (not tithable) and Roof, John

Margarett Ridingborough is the wife of Peter.

From "Early Church Records of Loudoun 1745-1800" by Hiatt:
New Jerusalem Lutheran Church Records
Christian Bugly married Maria Eva Reutenbach, Friederich Reutenbach's surviving widow, 15 Dec 1784.

From "Index to Loudoun Co. Deed Books A-Z, 1757-1800" by Pat Duncan:

Bk:Pg: U:325 Date: 5 Apr 1793 Returned to court: 8 Apr 1793
Charles Earl of Tankerville and Henry Astley BENNETT of Great Britain to Christian BEAGLE of Ldn. Bargain and sale of 107ac in Catoctan adj William WINNING, David BEAGLE. Wit: John DAVIS, W. PAYNE.

Bk:Pg: V:191 Date: 19 Feb 1794 Returned to court: 14 Apr 1794
Christian BEAGLE & wife Eve of Ldn to John SANDBOWER of Ldn. Bargain and sale of 107ac adj David BEAGLE, Martin BOWER, Nicholas BORDERS. Wit: Adam SHOVER, Wm. WINNER Jr, name in German.

Pat Duncan
GenNutLdn@msn.com

Frederick Ridenbaugh and family of Loudoun, VA.

BJMEANS — 2009-10-20 19:50:54Z

Searching for any photos, stores or information on Frederick Ridenbaugh born about 1750 place unknown, died before 1784 in Loudoun, Virginia and his family. His wife's name was Maria Eva, she was born abt 1750 and died after 1784. Children of Maria Eva and Frederick Ridenbaugh are:
Peter R. born abt 1770 Loudoun, VA
George R. born abt 1772 Loudoun, VA.
Adam R. born abt 1775 Loudoun, VA.
Frederick R. Jr., born abt 1776 Loudoun, VA.
Elizabeth R. born abt 1782 Loudoun, VA.

Thank you

Re: Cooper family

duncan8151 — 2009-10-20 17:18:51Z

The following are occurrences of the name John Cooper on the Loudoun Co. Personal Property Tax Lists. Note that the term Battalion was used for both militia and tax purposes and denoted a district. Only males 16 years or older would appear on the list. The first (or only) person listed would be the head of the household and responsible for the tax. Note that more than one John Cooper is in the county at about the same time.

1797A First Battalion Cooper, Michael and Cooper, George and Cooper, John
1801A First Battalion Cooper, Michael and Cooper, Peter and Cooper, John
1802A First Battalion Cooper, Michael and Cooper, Peter and Cooper, John
1803A First Battalion Cooper, Michael and Cooper, John and Cooper, Michael
1804A First Battalion Cooper, Michael and Cooper, Daniel and Cooper, John and Cooper, Peter
1805A First Battalion Cooper, Michael and Cooper, John
1806A First Battalion Myres, John and Cooper, John
1807A First Battalion Myres, John and Cooper, John
1807A First Battalion Cooper, Michael and Cooper, John and Cooper, Daniel
1809A First Battalion Cooper, Michael and Cooper, John
1810A First Battalion Cooper, Michael and Cooper, John
1811A First Battalion Cooper, Michael and Cooper, John
1812A First Battalion Cooper, John
1813B 1st Battalion Cooper, John and Cooper, Mich’l.
1814B [First Battalion] Cooper, John
1814C Third District Cooper, Jno. and Ball?
1815A Third District Cooper, John
1815B [First Battalion] Cooper, John
1816C First District Cooper, John
1817B [First District] Cooper, John
1818C First District Cooper, John
1819A First District Cooper, John
1820B First District Cooper, John
1821A First District Cooper, John
1821B Second District Cochran, Elijah and Cooper, John
1822B First District Cooper, John
1822B First District Cooper, John
1823B First District Cooper, John
1824A First District Cooper, John
1824A First District Cooper, John Jr.
1824A First District Cooper, John Sr.
1824B Second District Cooper, John
1825A Second District Cooper, John
1825B First District Cooper, John
1825B First District Cooper, John (of Fred’k)
1826A Second District Cooper, John
1826B First District Cooper, John
1826B First District Cooper, John Jr.
1827A First District Cooper, John
1828B First District Cooper, John
1829A Second District Cooper, John
1829B First District Cooper, John Sr.
1830A First District Cooper, John

From "Index to Loudoun Co. Wills 1757-1850" by Hutchison:

COOPER, Michael
Book:Page L:169
Date of will: ___ Dec 1813
Received in Court: 8 May 1815
Shoemaker, Charlotta, Daughter
Cooper, Peter, Son
Cooper, Michael, Son
Cooper, John, Son
Cooper, Daniel, Son
Cooper, Frederick, Son
Cooper, Philip, Son
Cooper, Jacob, Son
Cooper, George, Son
Cooper, Catharine, Wife
Huff (Hough), George, witness
Compher, Peter, witness
Cooper, John, witness

COOPER, Frederick
Book:Page P:296
Date of will: 8 Feb 1825
Received in Court: 9 May 1825
Cooper, Jacob, Son
Rickard, Catharine, Daughter, dec'd.
Cooper, Mary, Wife
Cooper, John, Son
Cooper, William, Son
Cooper, George, Son
Cordell, Alexander, witness
Compher, Peter, witness
Cooper, George, witness
Exor George COOPER, $5000 bond, security George RICHARD & William COOPER.

COOPER, Philip
Book:Page 2A:362
Date of will: 5 Jun 1843
Received in Court: 10 Jul 1843
Cooper, John, Son
Cooper, —, Wife
Cooper, George, Son
Baker, Sally, Daughter
Baker, Adam, Son-in-law
Cooper, Elias, Son
White, Thomas, witness
Orrison, Ananias, witness
Peacock, Elijah Jr., witness
Exor John COOPER. $1500 bond, security Thomas WHITE.

Some of the above might help prove or eliminate possibilities.

Pat Duncan
GenNutLdn@msn.com

Re: Cooper family

aspark11 — 2009-10-20 17:03:46Z

Thanks Pat. I have their marriage info, and children, and am looking for the parents of both John and Nancy.

Re: Cooper family

aspark11 — 2009-10-20 16:54:02Z

Thanks JAYERL I have the marriage info, and have traced them through Belmont Co. and their descendants to points beyond. They did have two sons, Isaac 1825 and John Wesley Jr. 1819 that I can't find. Do you have anything on them? Also, you can find a biography of John Cooper Way on the Pleasants, WV. website on Rootsweb. I am currently entering the Coopers on Ancestry. Look for Cooper/Vandyne. Thanks again.

Re: Cooper family

duncan8151 — 2009-10-20 14:20:40Z

From "Loudoun Co. Marriages 1757-1853" by Wertz:
Cooper, John & Nancey Mercer, m. 27 Oct. 1810. Minister: Thomas Littleton.

If you wish to have a scan of that original marriage record, email me directly. The only information provided is what you see above.

PAt Duncan
GenNutLdn@msn.com

Re: Cooper family

JAYERL — 2009-10-19 23:49:07Z

Note please that Lilajay and Jayerl are one in the same. Changed it when I moved to KY from CA.
John C. Way was my 2nd Great Granpa. I knew he was wounded at Gettysburg but never knew about a letter. Would love to have a copy if possible.
Will post marriage info on John and Nancy when I come across it

Re: Cooper family

JAYERL — 2009-10-19 23:33:44Z

Sorry, so very long in replying. We have moved from CA to Kentucky. 3 months after we moved into new home hubby fell broke his hip and it has been down hill ever since. He has finally lost use of his legs and is wheelchair bound.

I found Nancy (Mercer)and John Cooper in Belmont County, Ohio Census records. Somwwhere in my records, I have a copy of page from a book that gives there marriage date in Loudon, VA. It was noted in the book that the original records no longer exist. I doubt that I am going to have time until after the first of the year to do anything with my research. Will keep you posted on what I find and copies of what I have.

Re: Rhoda Evans of Loudoun County, Virginia

duncan8151 — 2009-10-18 03:37:57Z

Parish records were primarily concerned with the operating expenses of the parish and do not contain baptismal records. Cameron Parish records were lost during the Revolution. There are relatively few church records from that period. "Early Church Records of Loudoun 1745-1800" by Hiatt contains Quaker, Lutheran, and a few small Baptist churches. No Rhoda Evans is listed. There is a Thomas Evans listed in the Goose Creek Monthly Meeting records as a witness to the marriage of John Smith, son of John Smith of Frederick Co., married Esther Gibson, daughter of Joseph Gibson, 7th day of 3rd mo 1792.

When I abstracted the Loudoun Deed Books I included any mention of location. On the deed in Deed Book 2I, page 398 no location was listed for Samuel Newman and wife Rhoda.

The only mention of Samuel Newman on the Loudoun Personal Property Tax lists after 1800 is in 1802 in the First Battalion. A Samuel Newman also appears as early as 1789 and resides with other individuals until 1798 when he is the head of his own household. Since Rhoda Evans appears on those lists 1802-04, if he is the same one she did not marry him for several years. She may have also married him after she moved to Ohio.

Pat Duncan
GenNutLdn@msn.com

Re: Rhoda Evans of Loudoun County, Virginia

Pb_Caccia — 2009-10-18 00:38:56Z

Wow! This is a major break through. And your supposition about Thomas' name makes perfect sense.

My immediate questions are:

(1) Do the parish, church, or marriage records at your disposal give any indication when Rhoda married Thomas Evans? Their eldest child, named William Evans, was born 9 Nov 1787. Do the parish or church records give baptism of the children? Now I wonder if all 8 of Rhoda's children were fathered by of Thomas Evans. I've checked everything Ancestry and LDS FamilySearch has online.

(2) Is there any evidence in parish records when Rhoda Evans married a third time to Samuel Newman? Is Samuel Newman in the tax records? I don't find him in 1789 or 1800 which are my only sources. Can you check?

(3) Deeds Book 2I, page 398: 6 Jan. 1808 William Hummer to Samuel Newman and Rhoda Evans apparently settling all claims against the estate of Thomas Evans. Would the deed tell where Rhoda and Samuel Newman resided?

(4) On 20 Aug 1809 Rhoda's eldest daughter married in Licking Co., OH, although biographies of her sons indicate she moved to Ohio alone with her children before then. Big question: What happened to Samuel?

If you can help in any way or point me in another direction, please do so. I'm in your debt! Peggy

Re: Rhoda Evans of Loudoun County, Virginia

duncan8151 — 2009-10-17 23:27:35Z

Yes, I have authored many Loudoun Co. references.

The Order Book references were all that appeared in those books. Note that on that same day permission was granted William Hummer the Admr. of Thomas Evans dec'd to take the deposition of John Hannah in Tennessee who was a witness to the will of Williams Evans. The "Index to Loudoun Co. Wills 1757-1850" by Hutchison shows:

EVANS, William
Book:Page G:124
Date of will: 13 Jan 1775
Received in Court: 13 Dec 1803
Davis, Nathan, Wife's Brother
Evans, Mary, Wife
Evans, John, Son, <21
Hanne (Hannah), Thomas wife's son, Step-son
Hanne (Hannah), John
Davis, John, executor
Harper, Nicholas, executor
Steel, John, witness, resident of Ky. by Feb 1802
Jenkin, Samuel, witness
Hanna, John, witness, resident of Tenn. by Feb 1802
Farmer. Deposition of 9 Feb 1802.

From the above you might suspect that Thomas Hannah, a step-son, became familiarly called Thomas Evans over the years.

Thomas Evans died before tax collection time in 1802. As his widow who owned horses, Rhoda would have been required to pay taxes, thus she is listed for three years beginning in 1802. She herself would not be taxes as Thomas had been when he was alive (as he was a male over 16 years old.) It appears that Rhoda was married to John Boyd and after his death married Thomas Evans.

If you have further questions, let me know.

Pat Duncan
GenNutLdn@msn.com

Re: Rhoda Evans of Loudoun County, Virginia

Pb_Caccia — 2009-10-17 23:08:43Z

Thank you very much, Pat. (You must be the author of the Indexes I've read!)

Can you help me translate the Order Book entries you posted into plain English?

(1) February 1802 [p. 173]
What does the parenthesis after Thomas EVANS mean? [als Thomas HANNA/HANNAH] Did Thomas Evans have 2 surnames? Is this another individual entirely?

(2) February 1802 [p. 175]
Does this mean William Hummer is trying to establish Thomas Evans' participation in the will of William Evans dec'd? Is he trying to find out if Thomas inherited anything from William Evans? Somehow William and Thomas are related. Should I be looking for a will of William Evans, dec'd, although it sounds like questions surround the document.

(3) October 1802 [p. 476]
I don't understand the naming structure for Rhoda here. In 1802 she is "Rhoda Evans". She was Rhoda Boyd before John's death. So is her maiden name Evans or is Evans her newly remarried name? Is there a legal formality to how she is referred to? What is your opinion; I suspect you've read lots of these entries?

Point of Interest:
The 1830 U.S. Census for Perry Twp., Licking County, Rhoda Evans is enumerated as "Rhody" Evans!
Thank you for carefully copying the 1802 property tax list as "Rody"

Peggy

Re: Rhoda Evans of Loudoun County, Virginia

duncan8151 — 2009-10-17 12:47:10Z

I don't know that this will help much, but here is additonal information.

From the Loudoun Co. Personal Property Tax Lists:
1802B Cameron Parish Evans, Rody
1803B Cameron Parish Evans, Roda
1804B Cameron Parish Evans, Rhoda
[note: taxes on 2 horses]

Order Book V, 9 February 1802
[p. 173] Certificate granted William HUMMER with Thomas BLINCOE and Nicholas HARPER his securities and bond for obtaining Letters of Administration on the estate of Thomas EVANS (als Thomas HANNA/HANNAH). William COLEMAN, William W. WILLIAMS, William HORSEMAN and Richard FREEMAN to appraise estate and make report to the Court.

[p. 175] Dedimus awarded William HUMMER Administrator of Thomas EVANS dec'd to take the depositions of John STEAL a resident of Kentucky and John HANNAH a resident of the state of Tenissee which persons are subscribing witnesses to the last will and testament of William EVANS dec'd.

Order Book V, 12 October 1802
[p. 476] On motion of William HUMMER, ordered that John LYONS, Thomas L. LEE, Johnson CLEVELAND, Ludwell LEE, William W. WILLIAMS, and William COLEMAN to settle the Admr. account of Rhoda EVANS late Rhoda BOYD on the estate of John BOYD dec'd and make report to the Court.

Pat Duncan
GenNutLdn@msn.com