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Jan Gerritsen Decker link to Society of Mayflower lineal descent

FredGoodenough — 2009-11-28 17:42:51Z

Any info on Mayflower lineal desent of Jan Gerritsen Decker would be greatly apreciated. He was born in 23 Apr 1640, Heerden, Gelderland Holland and married to Grietjen Westercamp 23 Mar 1664, Kingston, NY.
Many thanks.
Joan

Re: Obit help sought for Clintondale/Plattekill, NY 2/15/1922

aggieway — 2009-11-19 12:49:17Z

Hello,

Just wanted you to know that I looked in the New Paltz Independent and Times for this obituary, but I could not seem to find it. I did find a brief reference to the family on 2/16/1922. It reads:

"Catherine M. Smith has sold her fruit farm of 32 acres on Basket Street at Clintondale to W. Lockwood of Kingston"

Mary Anne

1931 death in Binnewater/Rosendale

F_Gargaro — 2009-11-19 05:16:55Z

I am helping a friend locate resources in Ulster County for researching a death that may have occurred there 2 May 1931. An Ella Chiacra/Chiacchiera died on that date and was butied in a NYC cemetery a few days later. Cemetery records (with name misspelled Chiara) indicate she died OT (out of town) but don't specify the location. There were relatives in Binnewater/Rosendale area, and my friend believes Ella was with them at the time of her death.

Are there on-line resources such as old newspapers from that area, or other records that might prove helpful? Is there a local library that would have old papers on microfilm?

Any suggestions on an approach to locating a death record would be appreciated. I live in NJ and cannot currently travel to NY for research.

Thanks

Re: Renewal of a 2yr old request for Obits for 3 SKERRITT's

mindfoggs2 — 2009-11-19 02:56:39Z

Dear aggieway,

THANK YOU so much for these obits!! They are very much appreciated. They attached just fine.

And the obit for Robert, Sr. has provided me with two more alternate spellings to check out when looking for information/records on the DeBow & Fornaro branches, DeVow & Finaro.

Interesting, too, that Harry Wilson "Billy" Skerritt's obit mentions only his mother & not also his father, Robert A. Skerritt, Sr.

Thank you again for these obits.

Re: Obit help sought for Clintondale/Plattekill, NY 2/15/1922

Chesham54 — 2009-11-18 13:15:12Z

Ok. I'll wait to hear what you find out. This is such an enormous help! K.

Re: Obit help sought for Clintondale/Plattekill, NY 2/15/1922

aggieway — 2009-11-18 11:33:50Z

I can check the date of death at the NYS Archives and also look for the Kingston Freeman as well as Poughkeepsie newspapers next library trip-probably before the end of the month.
I know you would be entitled to a copy of the death certificate from the NYS records, but it is likely that the local record is available to you more quickly and cheaply should you decide you want it.

Re: Obit help sought for Clintondale/Plattekill, NY 2/15/1922

Chesham54 — 2009-11-18 03:50:24Z

Hi Mary Ann,
I just found a little snipet from the Kingston Freeman, that has Alfred W. Carter being given administrative rights to the estate of his wife Catherine "late of Plattekill." It was written in March 1922. So that narrows it down a bit more.

K.

Re: Obit help sought for Clintondale/Plattekill, NY 2/15/1922

Chesham54 — 2009-11-18 03:08:44Z

Well, I suppose it's possible. The date of death came from on of her grandchildren's attempts at putting the tree together about 20 years ago. I don't actually have a citation for it, just a notation on a family tree. I know that she and her husband (Alfred W. Carter)were living in Plattekill for the 1920 census. As you saw by the article you posted, her daughter moved out of the area in 1922. So, I'm guessing that the date is at least close.

I really appreciate your help! I wonder, since she's my grandmother, if they'd give me a death certificate from Plattekill? Hmmm.

Thank you!
Kathryn

Re: Obit help sought for Clintondale/Plattekill, NY 2/15/1922

aggieway — 2009-11-18 02:33:18Z

Kathryn,
On my next library trip, I'll try for a Poughkeepsie newspaper for you. Maybe they would cover that area. I was surprised not to find it in the New Paltz paper and I checked twice both before and several weeks after the date of death you have. Is there any question that this is the correct date?

Happy to help you out!

Mary Anne

Re: Renewal of a 2yr old request for Obits for 3 SKERRITT's

aggieway — 2009-11-18 02:22:45Z

I am (hopefully) attaching your 3 Skerritt obituaries.

Mary Anne

Re: Obit help sought for Clintondale/Plattekill, NY 2/15/1922

Chesham54 — 2009-11-17 23:48:50Z

Wow! That's my aunt! Incredible. Thank you! Now, if only they'd put something in the paper about Catherine dying. I wonder where else I might look for information in that area?

Thank you so much!
Kathryn

Renewal of a 2yr old request for Obits for 3 SKERRITT's

mindfoggs2 — 2009-11-12 18:29:14Z

This is a renewal of a request that I originally made 2+ years ago for copies of obits for three SKERRITT individuals.

Unfortunately, not being in NY and also being a statistic of this recession, I'm unable to go in person to look these up & am not, at present, in a position to send to & pay for copies from a library or the Kingston Daily Freeman.

I'm looking for look-ups of obits on the following SKERRITT family members:

SKERRITT, Doris Ann (BEYERSDORFER) d. 6 April 1999

SKERRITT, Robert A Sr; 74 of Lomontville/Rosendale, NY d. 29 Sept 2004

SKERRITT, Harry Wilson; 47 of Valhalla/Rosendale, NY d. 13 May 2005

Thanks to anyone who can help me out with these.

Look-up Request 50th Wedding Anniversary abt. 1969/1970 in Kingston Daily Freeman

mindfoggs2 — 2009-11-12 18:13:23Z

Can anyone do a look-up for a possible 50th Wedding anniversary announcement for Harry W. SKERRITT and wife Lillian M. nee DeBOW of Hurley?

The probable time period for the anniversary would be May 1969 - Dec 1970.

I don't know if there had been a smaller Hurley community newsletter during that time or just the Kingston Daily Freeman where this may have been reported.

I think that the Hurley Reformed Church had little flyers with the Sunday services but I don't know if anything of that nature for members of the congregations would be mentioned nor where one could possibly find archived copies of these assuming anyone even bothered to save them.

I'm not in NY and being a recession stastic in any position to send & pay for a copy of such an announcement if it does exist so I'd really appreciate the look-up. Thanks

Re: Christopher MENTZ

RhodaMoree — 2009-11-10 05:40:30Z

EARLY CRAGSMOOR: There were three families, namely Gonzalus, Ferguson and Lilly, living in Cragsmoor when the Mances and Coddingtons came shortly before the Revolutionary War.

At that time pioneers were moving and claimning land wherever they found it unsettled, even though much of it might have been granted to a British subject by the King of England. Not until after the War that freed the colonists, did the John Mance family obtain a legal deed to a large tract of land. Mance earned title to the land he had settled a quarter century earlier by surveying for the party who had obtained a legal title after the war. Others also purchased land to obtain a deed, but it appears that "Old Josie" Joseph Coddington held his land by squatters rights and deeded it off to his four sons.

When the Mances, Coddingtons and others came to the mountain around 1770, they came not for hunting and trapping but to harvest the lush, virgin forests. They were soon followed by Saegers, Evans, Williams, Deckers, Fosters, Wooden and others. The Mances being the most numerous, it soon became known as the Mance Settlement. (John Mance-then Mentz and wife Annatye Mack of Wawarsing had 10 sons and daughters between 1778 and 1798 and this was only one of the Mance families living there.)

By the 1800s Ellenville had become a growing community and opened a new market for good produced on the mountain. The Mance Settlement prospered and there was no problem in supporting the large and ever growing families who lived there.

About 1820 John Mance (1795-1862) built a sawmill on the South Gully stream. This provided a much needed and more convenient place to work up lumber harvested on the mountain.

Jacob Mance had a little furrier shop which was called the "Hat Shop". Mance dressed the furs himself and made them up into caps. Most of his stock was soldin Newburgh. This was in the 1820s and '30s.

Also in the early 1800s Mance's barn was built on the edge of the present county road behind the house nmow standong on the corner of Sam's Point Road. Part of the old foundation still remains.

Mance's Barn was a busy place. The upper floor was used for a weaving room where linens and carpets were made. The lower floor was a carpenter and blacksmith shop. Wagons, sleighs and all manner of articles were made here, including coffins for the village of Ellenville before there was an undertaking establishment there.

After the Civil War, the old barn became known as the "Barracks". A few young menof the mountain, veterans of the war, organized a fife and drum corp and Mance's Barn became their meeting place.

Although there were no churches in Mance Settlement, religion was important to the families there. It was not at all unusual for wagons or sleigh loads of worshipers to travel as far as Wawarsing of the Shawangunk Church to attend services. Methodist camp meegings were held in Mance's Grove.

One occasion in particular has been told of a camp meeting in 1845, promoted by William Rhodes Mance and others, which lasted for a week. There were more than a dozen tents and the average daily attendance was about 200 people.

Really unique, however, was the Gully Sunday School. It was the result of joint efforts of families from the Goldsmith Settlement on the north side of the Gully and the people from the Mance side. With the completion of a road between the two places and a jointinterest in the Mance sawmill already built by the stream, about halfway between the two, it waa decided to build by the Gully Brook to serve both communities.

The building was erected in 1835 and for the next 20 years William Rhodes Mance held Sunday School classes for the children of the mountaineers.

All in all it was a good life, albeit hard, and a relatively contented community thrived for many years. The economy changed, however, with the growth and expansion of other communities around them.

The markets for their goods and services diminished and the mountain top could no longer support the large families and the number of people who lived there. When it became necessary to take in boarders and look for other means of livelihood the younger generation started leaving the mountain to settle elsewhere. It was the end of a pioneer settlement and the beginning of a whole new life of summer boarders, summer homes and eventually Cragsmoor, the artist colony.

Re: Obit look up in New Paltz New York 1982

GLMARESCO — 2009-11-10 03:43:03Z

I just posted this information to a query from someone looking for an obit from Gardiner, NY:
I would suggest that you contact the New Paltz library. They have a wonderful file of obituaries from New Paltz and surrounding towns. I am sure they could send you a copy of this obit. Here is their web address:
http://www.eltinglibrary.org/hhhc/

Gretchen

Obit help sought for Clintondale/Plattekill, NY 2/15/1922

Chesham54 — 2009-11-09 21:47:41Z

I'm seeking information about Catherine Carter who died in Clintondale on 2/15/1922. Any information would be appreciated. She was staying with her daughter and son in-law, Catherine and Robert Smith, on Farms # 115 and 113 on Basket Street Road.

Thank you for reading this.

Re: Bailey Gerow, Plattekill, NY

jloreine — 2009-11-05 06:26:20Z

What information are you looking for? I'm a descendant of Bailey Gerow.

Jennifer Hussey

Birth/Bapt. records abt. 1829

Soxer — 2009-11-01 14:20:38Z

Would anyone know how to locate birth or baptism records for Ulster County for 1827-1830 other than guessing at a church affiliation and looking for records that way?

Specifically, I'm trying to find the birth of a Sidney W. Wood who was b. abt. 1829 in Kingston, Ulster County, NY and the child of Isreal Wood and Julia Watkins. I have tons of information on this family after they moved to Galen, Wayne County, NY in the 1830's but would like to find Sidney's actual birth or baptism record.

Thanks for your help, Petey

Obit look up in New Paltz New York 1982

Chesham54 — 2009-10-30 22:56:52Z

Seeking an obituary for Alfred Carter, d. March 1982 in New Paltz, New York.

Re: obituary lookup please for August Bastian d,1995 Gardiner, Ulster, New York

GLMARESCO — 2009-10-29 15:12:16Z

I would suggest that you contact the New Paltz library. They have a wonderful file of obituaries from New Paltz and surrounding towns. I am sure they could send you a copy of this obit. Here is their web address:
http://www.eltinglibrary.org/hhhc/

Re: Christopher MENTZ

RhodaMoree — 2009-10-23 03:33:42Z

Jack,
Sally Matz, President of the Cragsmoor Historical Society, took me to the Cragsmoor Cemetery which is also Manceville Cemetery.

Just checked my MANCE family tree and found Mary Catherine Mance, born 1837 daughter of Jacob Mance and Aintje Scott. Is this your Mary Mance?

Rhoda Moree
ARMOREE@aol.com

obituary lookup please for August Bastian d,1995 Gardiner, Ulster, New York

badenroots — 2009-10-22 10:43:36Z

I am looking for the obituary of August Karl Bastian. He died on September 9, 1995 in Gardiner, Ulster, New York.

Thank you
badenroots@yahoo.com

Re: Christopher MENTZ

jack1313 — 2009-10-21 09:08:48Z

Hello. My name is Jack Weed. I live in Walker Valley and my great great great grandmother was Mary Mance wife of Levi Weed. She was the daughter of Jacob Mance and Aintje Scott. Jacob and Aintje are buried in the community ground in Cragsmoor. They are the only 2 with readable headstones. I read in your posts about a Manceville cemetery. Can you tell me where that is? Thanks, Jack

Re: Christopher MENTZ

RhodaMoree — 2009-10-20 17:02:53Z

When visiting in Ulster County and doing research I was told that members of the SAME family used both spellings of MENTZ and MANCE. They lived on a mountain and one member camer down on one side of the mountain, another member came down on the other side of the mountain and each used a different spelling. Of course, way back then many people could not read or write so census takers did the best they could with the pronounciation provided to them. This could have had a lot to do with the different spellings.

When I first started my research I used the spelling of my Mother's family: MANCE. No success until I found another researcher who provided the spelling of MENTZ and then I was successfull in tracing the family.

Rhoda Moree
ARMOREE@aol.com

Re: Christopher MENTZ

RhodaMoree — 2009-10-20 16:55:40Z

I have also visited the Manceville Cemetery although I do not now live in the area. Most of my research has come from nearby repositories as well as Family History Centers (Latter Day Saints). Also, found another researcher who shared her information with me.

My Mother was born in Ulster County and I was born in Walden.

Is there anything I can help you with?

Rhoda Moree
ARMOREE@aol.com

Re: Reformed Protestant Dutch Church of Shawangunk

DarleenLegault — 2009-10-18 03:58:57Z

Yes, Barbara.

Lewis Mandeville was my 2nd great grand uncle and the Johnson's would be my cousins. I am trying to find out where the Mandevilles and the Johnsons came from. Would you know if the Johnsons are the same Johnsons from the Island of Madagascar as is written in the booklet of the Black History of Ulster County?

Thank-you for your time,
Darleen

Re: Christopher MENTZ

JulieBarone89 — 2009-10-17 23:53:44Z

Well, looks like we're cousins!
My line is Christopher/John/Jacob/Joseph/Joseph Smith (known just as Smith)/George/Robert/Willard/Jane (my mom).

I still live in Ulster County and have been to the old Manceville cemetery, or at least what was left of it in the early 1990's. Mostly hand carved slate stones. Christoffel had a wooden cross which I think has since disappeared.

Timmerman or Simmerman in Wawarsing/Rochester area, late 1700s to early 1800s?

rdavis544 — 2009-10-17 13:46:03Z

I have found a few bits of information on a Henry and Nicholas Timmerman ( often spelled Simmerman) in Rochester Township, Ulster County. They were both signers of the Articles of Association and there are two records of births to Nicholas Timmerman and Margaret Sax in the Wawarsing Reformed Dutch church records, Jacob, b 20 Oct 1771, bap 8 Nov 1771, and Petrus, bap 14 Aug 1774. The Wawarsing church also has a birth of John Timmerman, bap 9 Mar 1777, father, Henry Timmerman, mother Elizabeth Schultz. And another Wawarsing church record has the birth of Catrina Timmerman, b 27 Dec 1801, father, Hendrick Timmerman, mother Elizabeth Kettle. A Henrick Timmerman (Ancestry.com has Simmerman) can be found in the 1800 Rochester Township census, apparently Nicholas and family had moved to Greene Co. by then. Both spellings, Simmerman and Timmerman, were used in the various records. Does anyone believe they are related to this family or have more information on them.

Thanks, Richard

Re: New Ulster County, NY, Y-DNA Project

rdavis544 — 2009-10-15 23:44:36Z

Hi, yes, males tended to hand down their surname as well as their Y-DNA. So unless you had reason to believe the name had changed (adoption and the like) you would want to find a male descendant of the name you are trying to trace.

Thanks for the note about th Sullivan post What is now Sullivan County was in Ulster County until 1809. I'll try to make it sound more relevant.

Richard

Re: New Ulster County, NY, Y-DNA Project

seekerJay — 2009-10-15 21:42:58Z

I suppose this means that the name I'm trying to trace in Ulster County, FRANTZ, would have to be the name of the male donor? I only have a vague notion of how the various DNA tests work.

By the way, your duplicate message to the Sullivan board was deleted. I'm guessing because it was off topic - too bad as my FRANTZ relatives spanned the border of Ulster & Sullivan Counties in the little settlement of Frantzdale, now known as Spring Glen. Sullivan was subdivided from Ulster Co in 1809; before that, it was all Ulster Co.

Re: Reformed Protestant Dutch Church of Shawangunk

BarbaraKlein1949 — 2009-10-15 02:10:55Z

I looked in every church book I have from Ulster County and he is not in there...

could he be in Orange County, maybe?

Re: Reformed Protestant Dutch Church of Shawangunk

DiannaBenny — 2009-10-15 01:56:03Z

Can you look up Simon Davis for me please? His wife was Rachel Rosencranse. There are many variations of the spelling of Rosencranse. Thank you in advance.

Re: Christopher MENTZ

RhodaMoree — 2009-10-15 01:18:54Z

The Christopher Mance from my family tree was born 1730 and died 1817 in Wawarsing, NY. He is my ggggg grandfather.
Line of descent: Christopher/John/Jacob/James/Albert/James Edgar/and then my Mother, (Bessie) Adelaide Mance.

Have information on the whole family and willing to share if this is also your family.

Re: Christopher MENTZ

JulieBarone89 — 2009-10-14 10:31:55Z

I'm also researching descendants of Christofer / Christoffel Mentz / Mance & would love to trade info. He was my ggggggg-grandfather.

Re: Christopher MENTZ

pmintz186 — 2009-10-14 10:31:39Z

Have you come across any of the Family that used the spelling Mintz. I am looking for a Captain John Mintz born 1783 who moved to Wyalusing around 1800 or Isaac Mintz born 1794 who moved to Canada after the War of 1812. Any leads that you can give me would be apreciated.

Re: Kingston Church on Wurts Street

floydsboy — 2009-10-14 02:17:12Z

From newspaper mentions including his wifes obit in the 10/26/1915 Kingston Freeman. He was pastor of the Wurts Srteet Baptist church.
Wayne

Re: Kingston Church on Wurts Street

JulieBarone89 — 2009-10-14 01:43:22Z

85 Wurts St was the rectory for what is now the AME Zionist Church, across the street at 72 Wurts. I believe it was formerly Baptist. There was also an Episcpal Church at 20 or 30-something Wurts --- it closed down about 6 or 7 years ago. The St Peter's Catholic Church at 93 Wurts is still running.

Hope that helps!

Re: Looking for descendants of Ulster County NY Avery's

wandatwig — 2009-10-12 18:10:41Z

Adding another question RE: Avery/Every. Does anyone know of these persons: Sarah Elizabeth Cross (1848-1920) who lived near Shokan, NY-married to ? Avery and had a daughter, Maude who may have married a Harry Graves. Names associated with this family are Blue Gate, Manitoo Lodge and Moonhall Rd?? A second marriage may have been ? Eighmey, although David Avery was mentioned. Thanks for any help.
Wanda

New Ulster County, NY, Y-DNA Project

rdavis544 — 2009-10-10 23:13:43Z

A Geographical Y-DNA Project For Ulster County and surrounding area has been established at Family Tree DNA. This Project is focused on the Davis surname but it is open to all. We encourage anyone with paternal side roots in this area to consider joining us. This is especially handy for those surnames that don't yet have a Surname Project. The Project is titled "Ulster County, New York, Y-DNA Project" (abbreviated to "Ulster Co NY Y-DNA") and can be found on Family Tree.com. To find us there click on Projects, then search in U under the Y-DNA Geographical Projects list. If you are interested but have some questions you can find our more about Genetic Genealogy and our project in Issue #4 of our Davis Genealogy Newsletter, all issues are archived on our RootsWeb Website at -

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~traces/

We encourage any males with early paternal line roots in Ulster County and surrounding area to join us. Females whose direct paternal line originates from this area can have a paternal side male relative test for this project.

Regards, Richard

M. F. Liebenau, Presbyterian Minister, in Lloyd 1850 and living Creek Locks 1878.

SusanHopkins68 — 2009-10-10 00:27:58Z

Not personally interested in this person, but am sharing info on him as he turns up attesting to a marriage that needed to be documented for a Civil War pension file of the survivors of Joshua J. Hopkins of Greenwich, Ohio. M. F. Liebenau officiated at the marriage in Lloyd, Ulster County, as Pastor of the Lloyd Presbyterian Church on 15 Sept 1850. His affadavit is dated 9 Aug 1878 and he gives his address as Creek Locks, Ulster Co., NY.

FAIRCHILD researchers Rochester, Ulster, NY

NoraSmith31 — 2009-10-08 21:11:41Z

I am looking for people researching the family name FAIRCHILD in and around Rochester, Ulster, NY. On the 1800 Federal Census there are a number of FAIRCHILD people. Listed are Stephen born probably abt 1775 ... Oliver over the age of 45 years, Levi between 26 and 44 years old, Isaac also between the ages of 26 and 44 years old.

Also listed on this same page is a Abraham GILLETT who may be the same Abraham GILLETT [1745-1808] that married a Betty FAIRCHILD [1763-1845] on 27 JUN 1784.

I am looking for information [such as any records of marriages, land, taxes, burials, bible, etc.] to prove this is the "correct" Abraham GILLETT and that his wife, Betty, was related to one or more of these FAIRCHILD families.

Any help is deeply appreciated.

Re: Reformed Protestant Dutch Church of Shawangunk

BarbaraKlein1949 — 2009-10-08 20:06:10Z

I have a James Henry Johnson of Plattekill married to Harriet Dubois of Gardiner - colored - May 16, 1853.
(Shawangunk)

In my Wawarsing Churchbook:

1802 - no date - Revd. G. Mandeville and Margaret DeWitt had Maria Jones, b. Feb 10, 1802

Rev. Garret Mandeville and Margaret De Witt had Sarah b. Aug 17, 1804

Rev G. Mandeville and Margaret DeWitt got married Jan 10, 1799 in Marbletown at the Reformed Dutch Church.

This is all I have...

Re: Reformed Protestant Dutch Church of Shawangunk

BarbaraKlein1949 — 2009-10-08 19:54:40Z

Nothing in this church book..I see a Lewis Mandeville, age 64, died 11/20/1925 and buried in New Paltz, lot C 216..and in lot C 217218 is a Naomi Johnson, George, Augustus, infant Herbert JOhnson, Jennie age 1, Lucile, age2 and a Grace Johnson, age 39.
Are these people of any interest? Do yu think there might be a connection

I will look some more..

Barbara

Re: Reformed Protestant Dutch Church of Shawangunk

BarbaraKlein1949 — 2009-10-06 02:32:26Z

There is noting in the Shawangunk book about a Thomas Decker and wife Esther Green..could they have been married in Rochester, Kingston or in that vicinity?

Barbara

Re: Reformed Protestant Dutch Church of Shawangunk

pjsears — 2009-10-06 02:24:17Z

Barbara wrote:

I have a will here of a Matty Jansen..it mentions his daughter Marritie Jansen married to a Johannis Decker ...both have a daughter named Magdalena and a Ragel...the will is from 1727....would that be of any interest?
******************

The will above referred to is this:

Anjou, Gustave, Ulster County, N.Y. probate records in the office of the surrogate, and in the county clerk's office at Kingston, N.Y.
New York: G. Anjou, 1906, pp 116-117
Book of Deeds, Liber III (CC)
Page 353 -- Mattys Jansen of Kingston, Cordwainer; will dated 21 Aug 1727
Legacies to children eldest son Johannes, daughters Magdalena & Ragel, sons Thomas, Cornelis & Jacobus, and Grietie (wife of Lewis de Bois) and Marritie (wife of Johannis Decker). Eldest son Johannis, brother Thomas Jansen and brother John Crooke Junior appointed guardians of youngest children. Four sons Johannis, Thomas, Cornelis and Jacob appointed Executors. Signed by testator. Witnesses: Petrus Vas, Hendrick Jansen, and Gil Livingston. Codicil dated 21 Aug 1727. Proved in Court 5 Oct 1727 (1st year of George II).

Matthys Jansen and wife Rachel Popinga did indeed have daughters Magdalena and Rachel, but Johannes Decker and his wife Marritje Jansen did not have a daughter Magdalena.

Best regards,
Pam Sears

Re: Reformed Protestant Dutch Church of Shawangunk

pjsears — 2009-10-06 01:48:18Z

Dear Dave,

The records of the Reformed Church of Shawangunk, as published, only begin in 1750. The church itself was built between 1751 and 1755 and the first formal congregation was assembled in 1753. See:

http://www.shawangunkreformed.org/aboutus.htm

I believe the Lena Decker you are asking about was baptized at Rochester (recorded at Kingston) and the record reads as follows:

[Hoes B#2729] 10 Jan 1720; Willem Dekker, Rachel Van Aaken, Lena, "Bp'd in Raysester," [Rochester], Ysaak Van Aaken, Leentjen Zuyland

Her brother Abraham was also baptized at Kingston:

[Hoes B#2957] 14 Jan 1722; Willem Dekker, Rachel Van Aaken; Abrhaham; Wit: Willem West, and his wife.

Dorothy Koenig was kind enough to post the following on John Andrew and his wife Lena [Decker] back in 2008:

Dorothy wrote:

On 12 July 1761 John and Lena Andrew were witnesses (godparents) at the baptism of little "John", the son of Thomas Andrew and Rachel Oostrander.

Two years earlier on 21 Nov 1759 in the same church John Andrew and Lena Decker were witnesses at the baptism of little "Moses", the son of Abraham Smeedes and Geertie Swart.

On pages 587 and 588 of the compiled "Ostrander, a genealogical record..." published in 1999, it says that the Thomas Andrew who married Rachel Ostrander was the son of John Andrew and Lena ____. Thomas Andrew and Rachel Ostrander were married in Shawangunk Church on 10 February 1760. Rachel's older brother, Jacobus Ostrander,
married Elizabeth Andrew, sister of Thomas.

The Ostrander book also says, "...Elizabeth Andrew came from a family noted for its Loyalist activities. Elizabeth's father, John Andrew, had been driven from his home in Half Moon by harassment from a pack of Super-Patriots who considered him a dangerous man. He lost his home and possessions and was age 72, but he managed to struggle through the wilderness for and entire year before reaching safe haven in Canada...Others of the Andrew surname who preferred British Canada to Revolutionary New York included Abraham, George, Joseph, Michael, and Robert Andrew."

Dorothy Koenig in an email to NYUlster dated 19 Sep 2008

Best regards,
Pam Sears

Re: Reformed Protestant Dutch Church of Shawangunk

BarbaraKlein1949 — 2009-10-05 23:57:09Z

I have a will here of a Matty Jansen..it mentions his daughter Marritie Jansen married to a Johannis Decker ...both have a daughter named Magdalena and a Ragel...the will is from 1727....would that be of any interest?

Barbara

Re: Reformed Protestant Dutch Church of Shawangunk

BarbaraKlein1949 — 2009-10-05 23:42:40Z

Under Andries all I have is a marriage between

George S. Andries to Louisa Upright, both of Wallkill on March 31, 1910

The only Magdalena Decker born is in 1762 (no date otherwise) to Jonathan Decker and wife Cathrina Terwilliger.

Re: looking for parents of William Wilhelmus France

paintmaryhill — 2009-10-05 21:32:17Z

i havea jacobus France as wilhelmus child
#

* Jacobus France

* Birth
*
o 1785
o in Saugerties, Ulster, New York, United States

* Death
*
o 1843
o in Saugerties, Ulster, New York, United States

Re: Reformed Protestant Dutch Church of Shawangunk

DarleenLegault — 2009-10-05 17:58:57Z

Would you have an listings for Mandeville or Johnson? They were of negro decent and both families living together in Shawangunk in the 1850 census. I would be looking for a marriage between Mandevill and Johnson and/or births. Thank-you, Darleen