Patton Cemt. in Itawamba Co., MS.
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Census records for Dorn Patton (not called John) and some comments
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Posted: 8 Nov 2009 8:47PM GMT |
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Surnames: Patton Langston Beene McCreary McCarley Dyer Rogers Beachum
I'm glad someone is interested in clarifying information concerning Dorn Patton! Here are the census records I've seen for him. Note he is not called John in any of these records, or in any other public record of which I'm aware. I have not yet been able to find him in the 1810 or 1820 census (see comments about this below).
1830 Fayette Co. AL, p. 196, line 4: Dorron Patton 0000001-21101; prev. 3 are line 1: Wm. Rogers 10001-0001; line 2: Andrew Patton 20001-1101; line 3: Richard Rogers 00001-0001
1840 Itawamba Co. MS, p. 155: Dorron Patton 10000001-0220001-0, same pg. as John Beachum
1850 Itawamba Co. MS, dist. 7, no. 517: Dorn Patton 64 NC $3000, Sarah 50 VA, Martha 18 AL, Dorin 16 AL, Rucilla 7 MS (Drucilla)
1860 Itawamba Co. MS, Ryans Well PO, no. 1435: Dorn Patton 74 (76?) NC $8000 $24750, Sarah 64 VA, Luzila? 17 f MS (probably Drucilla, who was 7 in 1850); no. 1436 is Dorn Jr. 25 AL living alone, no. 1437 is Prudence (Patton) Williams & ch., a dau. of John Patton and Eliz. Beene
1870 - not listed; Dorn d. in 1864 (probably in MS, but no grave has been located) and his widow Sarah apparently d. 1868 in TX, where some of Dorn's ch. lived.
Note that none of the census records for Dorn Patton which name him with any of his children (i.e., 1850 and 1860) identify Dorn as "John Dorr Patton".
About 1810 and 1820...the most likely place to find Dorn in the 1810 census would be TN. He was apparently living in Williamson Co. TN 14 Apr 1808 when as Dornton Patton he was the bondsman for the mar. of Ezekiah McCarley and Margaret Langston (were they nephew and niece of Dorn?); then his dau. Eliza by his 1st wife was born ca. 1813 in TN, and a D. Patton from West TN signed an 1813 petition to move the Rutherford county seat from Jefferson to Murfreesboro. Unfortunately, the entire census of TN was destroyed, with the exception of Rutherford Co. and a portion of Grainger Co. There are no Pattons in Rutherford Co. in 1810 {although there is a John McRarry (McCrary?): 00201-22 no slaves and next to him Alexander Orr 2011-1001; several pages later there is a John Langston 201-001 no slaves; McCrary, Orr, and Langston families are all related to Patton, but I have not identified these 3 particular individuals}. I have not looked at the 1810 fragment of Grainger Co.
As to the 1820 census - Dorn was in TN 1817 and then AL by 1821, so might be in either TN or AL, or someplace else; the only "D" Patton in 1820 census of TN was David Patton - but perhaps this was really Dorn, misread as David (I have not inspected the original); note some other Pattons etc. from 1820 census of TN:
- Williamson Co.: Tristram 410001-1001-3 agr, 1 mfg-3200-11 (no other Patton in this co.)
- Rutherford Co.: ? (haven't inspected)
- Bedford Co.: Patton - James (3), James E., John (3), Samuel, Wm. (2); also John McCrary 20001-3101, no slaves. I mention McCrary here, because I am mindful of names similar to McCrary/McCreary and McCarley, two different surnames which I think can be confused with one another, especially considering the poor spelling often found in early 1800's records. The McCreary family lived around Ryan's Well, and a Sarah Ann McCreary mar. John Patton Jr., son of John Patton (d. 1833, son of Dorn) and Sarah Langston. McCarley is connected to Patton through two sisters of Dorn Patton, Elizabeth who mar. John McCarley, and Margaret who mar. Thomas McCarley.
There is a Bedford Co. TN petition dated 1822 or 1825 signed by a D. Patton (other names of interest who signed it were Jos. Patton (2), Saml. Patton, Jesse Allen, Rabise Allen, and Jos. Dyer), so it is possible that Dorn lived near the TN-AL border - in these early years some county boundaries along the TN-AL-MS border were not well-defined, perhaps even disputed, so that pertinent records may show up in several places.
The previous post mentioned a "John Dorr Patton" seen in the census which matched Dorn (what year?). So far I have not seen the name John Dorr Patton in any original records. As the post pointed out, there are many Pattons alive at this time. Phonetically speaking, one possibility here is a John Dyer Patton (b. 28 Jan 1781 Baltimore, MD, d. ca. 1825 KY), possibly a first cousin of Dorn Patton's (if Dorn's father is Robert Patton d. 1813 in Lincoln Co. TN, as the records of Lincoln Co. TN seem to support, and if Robert's father is Matthew Patton b. ca. 1740 and Esther Dyer, which seems likely although Robert is not named in Matthew's will or otherwise identified in records associated with Matthew). I have noted the possible father-son relationship between Matthew and Robert, but have found no proof of it; I think that many people named Matthew and Robert need to be studied in detail before this possible relationship can be any more than the subject of a footnote.
Many of the Patton family trees on various FTM/Broderbund CD's are based on the extensive article on the Patton family printed in "Genealogy of Kentucky Families", v. II, p. 4 ff., which is reproduced on FTM CD 185. This article does not mention Dorn Patton, nor does it list a Robert Patton as a son of Matthew Patton and Esther Dyer, although the lists of Matthew's other children and grandchildren appear to be relatively complete. This Matthew Patton's will of 2 My 1803 in Clark Co. KY mentions the following: beloved wife, all my ch. (not named), sons Matthew Jr., Roger, Wm.; exctrs sons Matthew Jr., Roger, Wm.; wit. Richard A. ?, Thomas Goff, Wm. Black; codicil 3 May 1803 mentions dau. Sarah and her 4 ch., wit. James Crockett, Thomas Goff, Wm. Black. The parentage of Robert Patton is a murky subject, and there are a number of Robert Pattons in original records who might be the same person. The NC birthplace of Dorn Patton and other indications that his family was in NC before 1800 has suggested to some that he might be part of a Patton branch from PA. Some researchers suggest he is brother to John PATTON, blacksmith (will 1800 Rowan Co. NC), since Robert may have res. near this John PATTON (blacksmith); Robert Patton may have been the uncle of Joseph PATTON (RW pension appl. file S3632), who deposed 13 Oct 1832 Morgan Co. TN that during the RW he had helped his uncle Robert, brother of his father, who did blacksmith work under contract with the army.
I'm happy to try to help shed more light on Dorn Patton, and hope that this dialogue will prompt someone to put forth some additional proof concerning these names relationships.
1830 Fayette Co. AL, p. 196, line 4: Dorron Patton 0000001-21101; prev. 3 are line 1: Wm. Rogers 10001-0001; line 2: Andrew Patton 20001-1101; line 3: Richard Rogers 00001-0001
1840 Itawamba Co. MS, p. 155: Dorron Patton 10000001-0220001-0, same pg. as John Beachum
1850 Itawamba Co. MS, dist. 7, no. 517: Dorn Patton 64 NC $3000, Sarah 50 VA, Martha 18 AL, Dorin 16 AL, Rucilla 7 MS (Drucilla)
1860 Itawamba Co. MS, Ryans Well PO, no. 1435: Dorn Patton 74 (76?) NC $8000 $24750, Sarah 64 VA, Luzila? 17 f MS (probably Drucilla, who was 7 in 1850); no. 1436 is Dorn Jr. 25 AL living alone, no. 1437 is Prudence (Patton) Williams & ch., a dau. of John Patton and Eliz. Beene
1870 - not listed; Dorn d. in 1864 (probably in MS, but no grave has been located) and his widow Sarah apparently d. 1868 in TX, where some of Dorn's ch. lived.
Note that none of the census records for Dorn Patton which name him with any of his children (i.e., 1850 and 1860) identify Dorn as "John Dorr Patton".
About 1810 and 1820...the most likely place to find Dorn in the 1810 census would be TN. He was apparently living in Williamson Co. TN 14 Apr 1808 when as Dornton Patton he was the bondsman for the mar. of Ezekiah McCarley and Margaret Langston (were they nephew and niece of Dorn?); then his dau. Eliza by his 1st wife was born ca. 1813 in TN, and a D. Patton from West TN signed an 1813 petition to move the Rutherford county seat from Jefferson to Murfreesboro. Unfortunately, the entire census of TN was destroyed, with the exception of Rutherford Co. and a portion of Grainger Co. There are no Pattons in Rutherford Co. in 1810 {although there is a John McRarry (McCrary?): 00201-22 no slaves and next to him Alexander Orr 2011-1001; several pages later there is a John Langston 201-001 no slaves; McCrary, Orr, and Langston families are all related to Patton, but I have not identified these 3 particular individuals}. I have not looked at the 1810 fragment of Grainger Co.
As to the 1820 census - Dorn was in TN 1817 and then AL by 1821, so might be in either TN or AL, or someplace else; the only "D" Patton in 1820 census of TN was David Patton - but perhaps this was really Dorn, misread as David (I have not inspected the original); note some other Pattons etc. from 1820 census of TN:
- Williamson Co.: Tristram 410001-1001-3 agr, 1 mfg-3200-11 (no other Patton in this co.)
- Rutherford Co.: ? (haven't inspected)
- Bedford Co.: Patton - James (3), James E., John (3), Samuel, Wm. (2); also John McCrary 20001-3101, no slaves. I mention McCrary here, because I am mindful of names similar to McCrary/McCreary and McCarley, two different surnames which I think can be confused with one another, especially considering the poor spelling often found in early 1800's records. The McCreary family lived around Ryan's Well, and a Sarah Ann McCreary mar. John Patton Jr., son of John Patton (d. 1833, son of Dorn) and Sarah Langston. McCarley is connected to Patton through two sisters of Dorn Patton, Elizabeth who mar. John McCarley, and Margaret who mar. Thomas McCarley.
There is a Bedford Co. TN petition dated 1822 or 1825 signed by a D. Patton (other names of interest who signed it were Jos. Patton (2), Saml. Patton, Jesse Allen, Rabise Allen, and Jos. Dyer), so it is possible that Dorn lived near the TN-AL border - in these early years some county boundaries along the TN-AL-MS border were not well-defined, perhaps even disputed, so that pertinent records may show up in several places.
The previous post mentioned a "John Dorr Patton" seen in the census which matched Dorn (what year?). So far I have not seen the name John Dorr Patton in any original records. As the post pointed out, there are many Pattons alive at this time. Phonetically speaking, one possibility here is a John Dyer Patton (b. 28 Jan 1781 Baltimore, MD, d. ca. 1825 KY), possibly a first cousin of Dorn Patton's (if Dorn's father is Robert Patton d. 1813 in Lincoln Co. TN, as the records of Lincoln Co. TN seem to support, and if Robert's father is Matthew Patton b. ca. 1740 and Esther Dyer, which seems likely although Robert is not named in Matthew's will or otherwise identified in records associated with Matthew). I have noted the possible father-son relationship between Matthew and Robert, but have found no proof of it; I think that many people named Matthew and Robert need to be studied in detail before this possible relationship can be any more than the subject of a footnote.
Many of the Patton family trees on various FTM/Broderbund CD's are based on the extensive article on the Patton family printed in "Genealogy of Kentucky Families", v. II, p. 4 ff., which is reproduced on FTM CD 185. This article does not mention Dorn Patton, nor does it list a Robert Patton as a son of Matthew Patton and Esther Dyer, although the lists of Matthew's other children and grandchildren appear to be relatively complete. This Matthew Patton's will of 2 My 1803 in Clark Co. KY mentions the following: beloved wife, all my ch. (not named), sons Matthew Jr., Roger, Wm.; exctrs sons Matthew Jr., Roger, Wm.; wit. Richard A. ?, Thomas Goff, Wm. Black; codicil 3 May 1803 mentions dau. Sarah and her 4 ch., wit. James Crockett, Thomas Goff, Wm. Black. The parentage of Robert Patton is a murky subject, and there are a number of Robert Pattons in original records who might be the same person. The NC birthplace of Dorn Patton and other indications that his family was in NC before 1800 has suggested to some that he might be part of a Patton branch from PA. Some researchers suggest he is brother to John PATTON, blacksmith (will 1800 Rowan Co. NC), since Robert may have res. near this John PATTON (blacksmith); Robert Patton may have been the uncle of Joseph PATTON (RW pension appl. file S3632), who deposed 13 Oct 1832 Morgan Co. TN that during the RW he had helped his uncle Robert, brother of his father, who did blacksmith work under contract with the army.
I'm happy to try to help shed more light on Dorn Patton, and hope that this dialogue will prompt someone to put forth some additional proof concerning these names relationships.